@wjmaggos @jeremiah @Moon

> but people who jump into a thread to post it or lots of other abusive shit are just being assholes.

Sure. So? Assholes are assholes, you can't cure it. Unless you plan to put them all in a camp and fire up the ovens, they're going to be *somewhere*. Naturally they will gravitate to the places where they are free to follow their inclinations, and behavior that nobody wants to see is only permitted in very permissive places.

Some people like having the assholes around, anyway. *I* like having the assholes around. As long as nobody can get rid of them, the e-Gestapo isn't breathing down my neck about making dick jokes. Weirdos get painted with the "asshole" brush and anywhere that assholes are chased away eventually chases away the merely unpleasant: weirdos, freaks, anti-social nerds, hackers, criminals, pirates, every interesting person. (Find me a creative person that isn't a thought-criminal.)

Very permissive places also appeal to people that don't want some rules e-lawyer to threaten to narc on them while they are chilling on the internet and talking to their friends.

If the people you want to bring here are indispensable from your perspective and I'm disposable, then that's fine: my server exists without permission, the software I am writing exists without permission and will eliminate the need (or ability) to moderate this server (which will go from a node on this network to an amorphous cluster of nodes on this network),

> that doesn't change that this is a shitty experience for lots of people.

I'd rather they be here than Twitter, but if that means the place becomes friendly to them and unfriendly to me, they already have the Mall Internet, I only have this place. I'm not the only one, either: lots of people are here because this is the only tolerable place for them. "You should feel welcome nowhere so that extroverted normies can feel welcome everywhere!" Thank you, I decline to sacrifice the one place I like in order to gentrify it so that a bunch of lily-white teenagers with shitty politics can be happy *here*, too.

> it's functionally biased towards hearing more from cons and assholes. and calling yourselves victims.

I stand up a Pleroma server because Twitter is bullshit and fedi is nice. I expect adults to be able to handle themselves. If this creates political bias, I don't recall being conscripted or paid to eliminate political bias, I recall wanting to participate in a network that I thought was pretty cool. I don't get where the "calling yourselves victims" comes from. FSE is here so that I have a place to be and so that other people have a place to be. I care about freedom of speech and I do not care to sterilize anything: this is where you find the people that would be censored elsewhere and censoring them here is antithetical to the purpose. Without a hint of equivocation, I refuse to chop the balls off this place to make it more comfortable for the people that are responsible for fucking up the rest of the web. They've chased the interesting people out of everywhere else, here we have a relative paradise, fuck the people that would like to chase the interesting people out of here, too. They can go back to Snapchat or Tumblr or Facebook or Twitter or any of the other places where they are welcome because here it does not matter if I'm welcome or not: I can be here and am here.