@pernia @allison @animeirl @mint

> however, lisencing is an inneffectual tool outside of your anglohegemonic business realm.

"You can wear a seatbelt if you want. It works. However, seatbelts don't protect you from food poisoning or bears."

> try suing a chinese company weaponizing your code.

I know. You can argue until you are blue in the face that nothing matters because every effort anyone makes to ever do anything is doomed and the CIA will eat everyone's babies and Tencent will rip you off, but that's got nothing to do with anything and is stupid.

> i'm telling you it won't work everywhere

It'll work here if they want to sell their products to the US.

> Ok. lets say the CIA decides to use linux to spy on communists or russian-sympathizers or white-supremacists.

"Pffff. Locking your screen when you leave your desk. You know that locking your screen doesn't protect web applications from SQL injections, don't you? It's pointless to solve a problem unless the solution to the problem solves *every* problem that exists." Sloppy thinking, lazy, fucking retarded.

(The CIA doesn't do that anyway, they fund a cutout.)

> if they can safely get away with stealing your code and wiping their ass with your lisence,

> contributing to projects with permissive/public domain lisencing has a higher value to me than grudging against big corpos.

Then go do it. I'm not "grudging against big corpos", that's stupid. If you leave candy out for kids on Halloween, and some stoned asshole wanders through, carries the bowl off, eats half the candy and then sells the other half, you're going to be annoyed: you had a reason to leave the candy out or you wouldn't have bothered. Then you ask him if you can have a piece and he says "Fuck you, the Business Software Alliance is gonna raid your office now."

I would like not to spend my effort on software that subsequently gets exploited by people that would sue me for piracy. Licensing is a matter of copying one text file or another to your repo, so you can pick one that makes it easier for someone to repackage it and sell it back to you and then sue you for piracy or you can pick one that makes it harder to put into a black box. Then you're telling me "Hey, let's all suck Bill Gates's dick because there is no perfect solution to all of our problems and if you don't suck that dick with me then you are holding some sort of grudge and you copied the wrong text file, chud. If it's not a perfect solution to every problem, it's not even worth doing. After we suck this dick, let's lay down and die in a hole."

So I've sent patches upstream, stuff I use, I've contributed to stuff, all kinds of licenses, I've put code in the public domain. I'd rather more stuff be GPL/AGPL than BSD/MIT/proprietary, because it limits choices for people that want to ship black boxes, and because I prefer other people do that, I will be doing that myself.