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- Embed this noticeI meant first victim of a war, alluding specifically to the current conflict between Russia and USNato/Ukraine. whatever facts you bring up from WW2 are AFAIK part of a different war, so the inferences you suggest are not correct. unless you're suggesting the present conflict is still WW2, which I'm not ready to outright reject, but I'd require plenty of evidence to take at face value. are you saying it is the same war, although allies then are now fighting each other, and enemies then are now supporting the same side?