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@AnCuRuadh @admin @kayeluvian that's what usually happens when you talk about centralized medicine — because like I said, centralized medicine is great if you're part of the in-group that everybody loves and agrees should have basic human rights, but the entire point I've been making is that for marginalized people — whose doctors are ill-informed anyway and whose rights are up for debate — centralized medicine is a nightmare horror show.

Also, SlightlyCyberpunk, this is an uttey and completely laughable false dichotomy that you're setting up, where the answer must be either state socialized-centralized medicine or the horrible medical industrial complex held up by the state for the profits of capital that America has, when those simply AREN'T the only two options. By shitting on centralized state healthcare I am not in any way endorsing the way America does it either.