@GettingCooked @Bunnyslope @Johncdvorak This was the "boots on the ground" I sent a few months ago, right on JC's birthday. I am happy to repeat the numbers, but it would take too many posts so I put it in a PDF, I would just have to find it on my laptop lol. In short "hosed" is not the word. The MW return on investment is beyond pathetic. Musselroe Windfarm for example 300ish Million for effectively about 20MW of power. The math is not complicated but I am long winded in explaining it.