@FinalOverdrive @nyx sure thats fair, in retrospect i could have just chimed 'dont forget MGTOWs exist'. I apologize for my bought of long windedness.

I still think that this stuff can boil back bad tho, like The Sorrows of Young Werther. either you get it out of your system in the way Goethe did or it eats you alive (in the way it did a lot of the readers at the time).

...sounds like its was a more genuine desire for epicureanism, which i think would suit a lot of those people (and most anyone) well. i think the reason people try to joke about heterosexual desire is that its sort of tragic and joking that you might be Ace or Gay etc, would be just such a convinent out. i wish them good luck. I sympathize with what you're getting at regardless.