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@nyx A crazy idea, I admit it's not very radical: men don't cease to be men, but let go of the entitlement to women's attention and bodies. Not something that happens in some grand fashion, but happens bit by bit because it can only happen that way by necessity. Refusal is accepted with good grace, interest no longer presumed, etc. I think being confronted with the fundamental things at issue could be enough to at least get a significant number of men to stop hurting women, and decide where they must stand. In many ways, the modern manosphere represents a novel, and far more dangerous, development in patriarchy. It is a self-conscious patriarchy, one that is prepared to consciously and deliberately assert, impose, and articulate itself. It makes what is invisible, visible.

I think desires are more immutable than one may be willing to accept, but what one does with these desires isn't immutable. Schopenhauer said said it best, I think. We can do as we will, but not will as we will. There is an optimistic side to it: it means one can do otherwise, even if it means acting against said immutable desires.

There was this greentext meme that was making it's rounds on DreadAnon on Youtube about the Dwarfpill. One thing I liked was that, in the comment section, it seem to provoke discussion among the predominantly male commentariat for healthier alternatives to the "redpill" and the "blackpill"...what stands out to me is that none of these ideas involved subordination of women or even denigration of women. It came down to finding happiness and satisfaction by one's own efforts, making peace with one's situation (not everyone is blessed with good looks or charm, so find happiness elsewhere.) You might ask where the sexuality fits in there. I think before talking about deconstructing heterosexuality itself...just removing the compulsory aspect of it would take away a lot of it's teeth. And if men drop out of The Game and gradually become less interested in reproducing patriarchy for no other reason than they simply do not find it satisfying, heterosexuality loses some of it's power.