@victor @mk @GrapheneOS


> It is speculation, as are all things security-related, but when mass-produced devices have been backdoored at the hardware level (see: Intel Management Engine or Cisco backdoors for example),

you have valid point, but it's up to the individual to determine their operating model. i have a use for a pixel+grapheneos myself but it's not what most people would consider a use-case.

> It's all been pwned, best policy is to just find a faraday bag that works (none of them do lolol) and only use your phone in emergencies, which is anathema to today's world.

again, i have a certain use-case for my handset. my uplink setup is quite different than most. faraday bag is a nice idea, but as you said none of them really work 100%.

more on this later, i have to write a blog about it.
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