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@cook @ned that's a hard question... what would change my mind... my mind has been formed over years of tidbits of thought and most confirmed by studies.

these studies would have to be retracted by authors; my father's adverse reaction would have to have another cause; my almost insignificant COVID symptoms can't be changed.

we would have to see less severe cases and deaths from a mostly vaccinated population - not more: virtual every case in Australia was after 90% adults were vaccinated!