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@cstross @eyrea @dampscot @qag Sure, just pointing out some thing that _might_ be closer by from a suburban/rural location than from an urban home.

For a sustainable world, urban living and rural/suburban visits is necessary for the majority, but for many people, it's ideal if those are all _the other_ people, and _they_ get to live in a big house in the sticks and have a 30 minute drive to get to a downtown with plentiful parking.