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that article is paywalled so i can't be sure but what exactly does it say about illegal domestic surveillance?

and what does it say about things that work to protect you from that surveillance?

chances are good they completely skipped the part where what they were doing was illegal, evidence of what they were doing being illegal, and what helps to stop the NSA from being able to completely compromise you: that's what snowden did

People understood what the NSA was doing shortly after 9/11 if even that late (see AT&T v. Hepting), they just couldn't prove it was illegal until snowden