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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 01:59:41 JST Sexy Moon
   Daily reminder that the NSA has a system where they capture most of the world's phone calls completely in a circular buffer multiple days long
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 01:59:40 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     @Moon
     
     there's no way it's not indefinitely at this point
     
     voice is just not that much data
     
     and it's probably 'almost all' voice data.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 01:59:40 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     @jeffcliff circular buffer, they hold all phone calls for several days before they are overwritten. the "purpose" is if something happens, they can stop the data rotation and sift through everything.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 02:28:24 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • nousnaut
     @Moon @nousnaut ie basically https://xkcd.com/883/ but for NSA
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 02:28:24 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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     @jeffcliff @nousnaut don't post xkcd at me bitch
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 02:28:25 JST Sexy Moon

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     • nousnaut
     @nousnaut the worst thing you can think of, they're probably already doing that but worse yeah.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 02:28:25 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • nousnaut
     @Moon idono
     
     @nousnaut is pretty creative. I bet the NSA is nowhere near nousnaut-worse-case-scenario levels
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     nousnaut (nousnaut@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 02:28:26 JST nousnaut

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     @Moon yeah, yeah Echelon++++++++. We all know about it
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:41:08 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     @dave @Moon yeah because the NSA has bought all of it
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:41:09 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     @Moon exactly
     
     we're like 8? moores law doubles out of that now
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     Ever Beedle (dave@gleasonator.com)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:41:09 JST Ever Beedle

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

     @jeffcliff @Moon Storage hasn’t really gotten meaningfully cheaper since the Snowden days

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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:41:10 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     @Moon how long has it been since we've learned about this buffer?
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:41:10 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     @jeffcliff snowden thing
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:42:10 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • nousnaut
     @guizzy @Moon @nousnaut
     
     that article is paywalled so i can't be sure but what exactly does it say about illegal domestic surveillance?
     
     and what does it say about things that work to protect you from that surveillance?
     
     chances are good they completely skipped the part where what they were doing was illegal, evidence of what they were doing being illegal, and what helps to stop the NSA from being able to completely compromise you: that's what snowden did
     
     People understood what the NSA was doing shortly after 9/11 if even that late (see AT&T v. Hepting), they just couldn't prove it was illegal until snowden
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:42:11 JST Sexy Moon

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     @nousnaut i am not sure what i think because they tried to keep it a secret, then it came out, and then they ended up not denying it but just kinda got the media to get us to forget/not care. most people don't know and if you tell them they don't care. a small portion of people are afraid of it
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     just an actual husbear (guizzy@pleroma.guizzyordi.info)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:42:11 JST just an actual husbear

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     @Moon @nousnaut >they tried to keep it a secret
     
     I don't really think they did. Look at the date of this WIRED issue, this is one year before Snowden.
     
     https://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff-nsadatacenter/
     
     It's all a matter of public framing, not knowledge of their operations. They don't care if people know about their operations, as long as the narrative is framed favorably or is at least not overly hostile to them. It's the difference between "look at the cool tech of this massive domestic spying operation" and "look at how creepy it is that there is a massive domestic spying operation"; with Snowden for a short while they lost control over the framing of that knowledge.
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     nousnaut (nousnaut@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:42:12 JST nousnaut

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     @Moon imo they don't care about actually having access to evidence -- esp since they can just fake it anyway. it's all about instilling the panopticon into people