@hypolite @firefly_lightning @silverwizard Although it's a pet peeve of mine Java's GUI probably could be thought of as a "standard" desktop computer, as the things written in Java bring Java's GUI with them (except the one's that don't, like LibreOffice and TuxGuitar). Users of the three desktop systems all get the same user experience out of the usual Java packages. Java stuff is a pet peeve of mine because I'm spoiled by having Linux' "bookmarks" to various directories in my load and save dialog boxes. OTOH Java's dialogs and other GUI things I have found to have a gentler learning curve than GTK+ and Qt, might get you writing GUI programs faster. If I feel a need to write something that interacts in a GUI way, I write a "web app" instead, but that's more a standard desktop browser experience than a standard desktop computer experience.