@xianc78 @ryo As usual, my position may piss off every side of every discussion in the entire universe, because it's not the position that any side takes, and it's not even the position that centrists take (they don't have real positions because they're fucking cowards, they probably can't even reprodooce anyway because they have no cojones). But I'll do it anyway.

I'm torn on the anti-natalism. Abortion is not a good thing, of course, but at the same time, it's good that people that would abort don't have children. Would you rather be aborted or be raised by them? I would pick the abortion. And it would be good if there were fewer stupid people around. We do have too many of them. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Hell, that is proven by the fact that so many people have so many abortions in the first place.

Also think about it, what if Richard Stallman's mom aborted him? The world would have one less idiot in it. Also, I would prefer to have been aborted myself. It would be even more so the case if I had to be born in recent years. Additionally, I do hate humanity and want it to go extinct unless it changes its ways and stops being shit. My position on evil is that it should stop being evil or be eradicated from existence.

Anyway, don't interpret this as me being pro-abortion. I'm not, it's more nuanced than that. If it should be done at all, it should be very fucking early, before there is any potential for sentience at all, and the woman should be sterilized and so should the man, they should lose their right to have children. I don't think even most people that don't take abortion lightly would say that it should never be done. Rape generally gets a pass, after all, but we also don't want to give women even more incentive to false false rape accusations. I don't have a solid position on what the limit should be because I don't know the timeline of all the biological processes.

Oh, I also think people should be paid to be sterilized in the first place, because then a lot of impulsive idiots would take it and wouldn't have children, and then smart people can have an environment where it makes sense to start having them. It would be voluntary, and I bet that a lot of people would do it. And then after that, not many abortions would happen. There you go, I solved the problem forever. Things being as they are, though, no one that is thinking straight would actually reproduce, because the world is hell and those kids have no future and who the fuck wants to live here? Good people think about the consequences of their actions, bad people don't, so only bad people reproduce, and bad people also have a lot of abortions.

By the way, does Stallman believe in "abortion after birth", also known as murder? Because some people actually defend that. And if he does, I suggest aborting him. Maybe we can even shove him up a dead whale's womb first if that's a requirement for him.