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@prefec2 @Scubyw @randahl
" *** dragged down to the level of Putin."
Let me tell you something from my early life experience.
I'm a small guy with a corruptible family name. After years of being abused and bullied, I started to play rugby, I was good, I was fearless amongst the big forwards.
First and only time in my 70+years I started a fight in response to previous bullying..

I was dirty.. I hit bellow the belt, I went "lower" than the bullies literally and morally .
The bullying stop!