@djsumdog @lain @rbreich ultimately if you're framing this as a stand your ground case you're wrong.

Fact: 911 responded instructed Zimmerman not to pursue Martin

Fact: Zimmerman chose to pursue Martin leading to a physical altercation

Your justification is self defense, stand your ground shit. That would also apply to Trayvon Martin if he had felt threatened.

Ultimately you are not going to convince me that Zimmerman didn't have prejudice or biases influencing his decision. I doubt he would have pursued Trayvon that night if he wasn't Black. If you're being followed at night you're not going to feel safe. The tape sounds like Zimmerman was running in pursuit. I would throw hands too.

Ultimately, it speaks to anyone's moral character to hold a 17 year old responsible for their own death over a grown adult. But hey, that attitude is exactly what makes this shithole country what it is.