@Largo @BionicNigga A female fedi denizen did an excellent writeup on this. @BarelyEagle has the screencap iirc and the bottom line was that you will never, ever be able to 'out-emotion' a woman as they are irrational children at their core. Losing frame control is actually what they are subconsciously provoking you to do. The more calculating ones attempt to escalate this into a man's natural endpoint of anger: physical violence. The solution is not giving them what they want but calmly telling them 'no', the way you would a child throwing a tantrum. This is why NEXT is such a powerful tool in a man's armamentarium, and you should be quick to cut losses when necessary.