@sim @Simpadoo @ins0mniak Oh, yeah, learned through the seat of my pants to act civilized indoors. Grandma was old-school. Stuff I do without thinking manages to impress them, excusing yourself when stepping away from the table, etc.; it seems like women appreciate any sign that there were active attempts to stop you from acting like a savage when you were small. (Maybe it's subconscious, I don't know. "This one knows how a house works because he was evidently tolerable inside one.")