@xianc78@ArdainianRight My friend and I have both known people personally who have developed life changing heart conditions shortly after getting the vax. It's a thing that's obviously real and there's just a tremendous propaganda campaign against it.
Are MOST people fine after the vax? Maybe, long term effects not withstanding. However, a very large percentage of them aren't and they are being demonized to hell and back for what boils down to greed.
Though most importantly, the thing doesn't even seem to work.
@ArdainianRight@RustyCrab It seems to be happening more often. I'm not saying that everyone who has taken the vaccine is going to get it, but there seems to be a connection.
@Lady_Euromutt@ArdainianRight@xianc78@RustyCrab I legitimately think your opinion on that is retarded. There's a handful of known cases of people living through a rabies infection and all of them have brain damage.
I would absolutely refuse such poison. Modern vaccines are no better than the ones from back in Pasteur’s day, and in fact if anything they’re worse because they have all sorts of nasty additives in them like heavy metals and stuff. No, a more accurate comparison would be a log of poo vs diarrhea.
Yes, because it hasn’t been shown to be effective. I quote The Contagion Myth by Tom Cowan: “Pasteur believed that he could prevent rabies by vaccinating thevictims of dog bites. He created the rabies vaccine by taking saliva, blood,and part of the brain or spinal cord (usually the cerebrospinal fluid) from asuspected animal and injecting it into a living rabbit, then aging and dryingthe cells from the rabbit’s spinal cord so that it could be injected into humanbeings.His first patient, a badly bitten nine-year-old boy, received the vaccine—after a doctor had cauterized the wound—and recovered. Pasteurproclaimed his success—but others were not so lucky. A Dr. Charles BellTaylor, writing in a publication called National Review in July 1890, listedmany cases in which Pasteur’s patients died, whereas the dogs that hadbitten them remained healthy”
Viruses have never been proven to exist as anything distinct from exosomes, which are part of normal cellular function.
No seriously, it is. There was even a study or two that showed that it does get converted into DNA. It probably is hereditary. Why wouldn’t it be?
SARS-COV-2 has never been proven to exist, and Covid has no symptoms at all that even remotely distinguish it from the usual seasonal flu.
@Lady_Euromutt@ArdainianRight@xianc78@RustyCrab Let's focus on the rabies one, because you didn't answer my question and it's fundamental enough to the conversation at hand. Would you refuse modern rabies vaccines after being bitten by an obviously rabid animal?
Pasteur's method was extremely primitive compared to even 60 years ago, but it's cheap and easy to do, to the point where an educated person could literally cultivate it in their garage. That's also why it sometimes failed, but why it's still used in shithole countries with poor instructor. Comparing it to modern immunoglobulin vaccines is analogous to comparing the wright brothers' first airplane to a supersonic jet.
Dude, it’s a genetic modification - it doesn’t merely put a bunch of spike protein in your body, it hijacks your cells and forces them to produce the spike protein and ultimately causes autoimmune disease because your body sees that it’s making something that shouldn’t be there and then ends up trying to get rid of your own cells for making it, and that mRNA actually is turned into DNA (which is the storage form of genetic material) and it’s passed on from one generation to the next. Also Covid doesn’t exist, so there’s no need for a vaccine for it anyway. Plus, vaccines have never been proven to prevent disease.
@Lady_Euromutt@ArdainianRight@xianc78@RustyCrab >Plus, vaccines have never been proven to prevent disease. So you're telling me you'd willingly neglect the rabies vaccine after getting bit by an obviously rabid animal? That's the treatment for a rabies bite – they vaccinate you so your body can produce antibodies and stop the virus once it enters your nervous system. Without the rabies vaccine, you're stuck with the Milwaukee protocol, which has a 97% mortality rate and permanent brain damage.
>it’s a genetic modification That remains to be seen. At least if it mechanistically works as they claim, it's not. I don't trust them or their data, which is enough for me. >hijacks your cells and forces them to produce the spike protein So does a virus. The difference is this is, theoretically, self-limiting. RNA doesn't hang out forever, and the average person is constantly bombarded with casual exposure and infection from viruses. >mRNA actually is turned into DNA (which is the storage form of genetic material) and it’s passed on from one generation to the next. Possibly, but probably not hereditary. We possibly have "junk DNA" that's residue from ancient viruses in the human genetic code.
>Also Covid doesn’t exist, so there’s no need for a vaccine for it anyway. I mean there's no reason for a vaccine but it does exist.
@xianc78@RustyCrab There are some negative side effects to the shot, I just don't see evidence that it's a "killshot" causing mass depopulation or anything close to that.
@ArdainianRight@xianc78@RustyCrab Spike protein is bad news. No reason to willingly get it from the vaccine (that doesn't actually vaccinate you) and still get them again from the virus. If it was actually a one or two shot sterilizing permanent immunity, I'd be much more willing to consider it. Instead, you get a flu shot type nonsense that does increase the chance of cardiac events, but the baseline is really small for healthy people. There's a weird thing where the vaccine is very harsh in young men. I believe moderna was recommended to be avoided by men under 50 for a while.
@RustyCrab@ArdainianRight None of my vaxxed family members seem to have any negative side effects. I think athletes are getting heart attacks because exercising obviously increases heart rate. I think the risk of getting a heart attack goes away after a while unless you get boosted.
But you believe the vaccine industry propaganda the vaccines prevent disease, even though there’s no evidence to support that. Because the folks who run the vaccine industry run the media and education system, this isn’t exactly well-known.
@Lady_Euromutt@ArdainianRight@xianc78@RustyCrab There are diseases which can be vaccinated against with a high degree of success. I'm opposed to the schedule and quantity of vaccines in our society, but not the theory of vaccination or germ theory itself. >the folks who run the vaccine industry run the media and education system, this isn’t exactly well-known. 1-800-COMEONNOW
@xianc78@Lady_Euromutt@ArdainianRight@BowsacNoodle@RustyCrab Same as the "vaccines have tracking microchips in them" thing, which was pretty obviously made to both discredit people who didn't want to get vaccinated and to distract from phones already being used to do exactly what they were claiming they needed microchipped vaccines to do.