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   Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:26:23 JST Evan Prodromou

   So, I guess this is my first design for a distributed social network. There has been some evolution in my thoughts since then.

   https://web.archive.org/web/20071209122841/https://evan.prodromou.name/Open_relationships

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:32:02 JST Evan Prodromou

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     This is understatement for humourous effect. This design looks almost nothing like ActivityPub.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:49:01 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan Wow, I just barely remember Yadis. There was another system from OASIS, i-name. They were pretty cool!

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-name

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:49:03 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @evan Made me look up what is YADIS, where looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yadis&action=history quite tells me it probably didn't get used much past 2008.
     
     I can see some similarities with OStatus but surprisingly not that much.
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:49:19 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Bob Wyman

     @bobwyman don't send her any unencrypted messages!

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     Bob Wyman (bobwyman@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 06:49:20 JST Bob Wyman

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     @evan
     Someday I'd like to meet Alice and ask her what she thinks our relationship really is...

     Bob

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     Erin 💽 (erincandescent@queer.af)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 07:05:40 JST Erin 💽

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan @evan
     Yadis uses XRDS

     XRDS birthed XRD (simpler), which birthed JRD (equivalent in JSON)

     Yadis was used by OpenID 2.0, and birthed (simpler) pre-standard WebFinger, which evolved into (compatible) RFC 6415 host-meta / 'lrdd' WebFinger (uses XRD), which got hammered into RFC 7033 WebFinger by the OpenID Connect people

     OStatus uses pre-standard/RFC 6415 WebFinger, ActivityPub uses (defacto) RFC 7033 WebFinger

     The more things change, the more they stay the same

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 07:06:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @erincandescent @lanodan son of a

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     Gabe Wachob 🐵🐴👨‍💻👨‍🎤🐮 (gwachob@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 14:45:41 JST Gabe Wachob 🐵🐴👨‍💻👨‍🎤🐮

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     @chrismessina @evan @lanodan @erincandescent I mean, hashtags were a good start ;)

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     Chris Messina (chrismessina@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 14:45:41 JST Chris Messina

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     @gwachob @erincandescent @lanodan @evan yeah but that was 15 years ago. NOW is our moment!

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     Gabe Wachob 🐵🐴👨‍💻👨‍🎤🐮 (gwachob@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 14:45:43 JST Gabe Wachob 🐵🐴👨‍💻👨‍🎤🐮

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     • Erin 💽

     @erincandescent @lanodan @evan

     XRDS came out of the #XRI OASIS Technical Committee that I was contributor and co-chair of (XRI long lost in the dustbin of open standards proposals).

     I am deeply amused that of all the effort a bunch of put into XRI, the only thing that ever got picked up and adapted/used was a relatively simple XML format for describing endpoints and doing "xri name resolution".

     BTW, does anyone know if Drummond Reed has entered the Mastodon?

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     Chris Messina (chrismessina@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Dec-2022 14:45:43 JST Chris Messina

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     @evan @lanodan @gwachob @erincandescent guys, I want to make this shit better; guide me

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Sunday, 18-Dec-2022 12:12:39 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @slowenough @chrismessina @gwachob @erincandescent @lanodan hi John!

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     John Abbe (aka Slow) (slowenough@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-Dec-2022 12:12:41 JST John Abbe (aka Slow)

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     @chrismessina @gwachob @erincandescent @lanodan @evan Forgive me if stating the obvious but just because something's been around 15+ years doesn't mean it isn't relevant to this moment. Some things take decades or longer before they reach their most powerful time.

     Related - I still believe that in the long run, wikis will have more influence on global culture than blogs. It's just that blogs (aka tweets or 'status' posts) fit the dominant culture's focus on the now, the latest/shiniest thing.