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    Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 07:29:44 JST Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veneration_of_the_dead?wprov=sfla1

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      Veneration of the dead
      The veneration of the dead, including one's ancestors, is based on love and respect for the deceased. In some cultures, it is related to beliefs that the dead have a continued existence, and may possess the ability to influence the fortune of the living. Some groups venerate their direct, familial ancestors. Certain sects and religions, in particular the Eastern Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church, venerate saints as intercessors with God; the latter also believes in prayer for departed souls in Purgatory. Other religious groups, however, consider veneration of the dead to be idolatry and a sin. In European, Asian, Oceanian, African and Afro-diasporic cultures, the goal of ancestor veneration is to ensure the ancestors' continued well-being and positive disposition towards the living, and sometimes to ask for special favours or assistance. The social or non-religious function of ancestor veneration is to cultivate kinship values, such as filial piety, family loyalty, and continuity of the family lineage. Ancestor veneration occurs in societies with every degree of social, political, and technological complexity, and it remains an important component of various...
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      Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 08:01:21 JST Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou
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      @shoq thanks! That's very thoughtful.

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      Shoq (shoq@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Dec-2022 08:01:22 JST Shoq Shoq
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      @evan BTW, thank you for all you did and do for ActivityPub. I wouldn't be here thanking you without it :)

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      Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 06:04:15 JST Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou
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      @splicer yeah, I think there's a real spectrum. Also in North American secular culture, we have other practices like: memorials and statues; named holidays; use of surnames or family names; naming children after family members; "what the founders intended"; family recipes; family traditions; genealogy; inheritance laws; historical reënactment.

      I think drawing a clear line between these and other practices elsewhere might be hard.

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      splicer (splicer@awkwardly.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 06:04:18 JST splicer splicer
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      @evan The section on North America seems to include visiting gravesites and memorials, in which case my "strong no" vote was an inaccurate response. However, I don't see pausing to reflect or keeping a photo of someone who is gone in the same category as keeping an altar, making offerings, or ritualized exhumation and reburial of a body. Maybe I should; it's not something I've given much thought to before now.
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      Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 06:05:23 JST Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou
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      @splicer Especially in North America but also in other European settler states, the Myth of the Crossing often plays a big part in our self-identity.

      In conversation Monday, 12-Dec-2022 06:05:23 JST permalink

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