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   utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Sunday, 04-Dec-2022 22:51:31 JST utzer
   Anyone want to takeover nitter.eu to run a #nitter instance, #Hetzner does not permit running nitter, so I will terminate the domain in 15 days.
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     hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Dec-2022 22:51:30 JST hypolite

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     @utzer I know this isn’t what you asked about but I do think it’s time for Nitter to retire. It was always a crutch that I don’t believe the Fediverse needs anymore.
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     utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Sunday, 04-Dec-2022 23:01:24 JST utzer

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     • hypolite
     @hypolite I am just using it to mirror two Twitter Accounts, maybe I'll just delete then.
     
     Anyway, I like to use nitter sometimes.
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     hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:24 JST hypolite

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     • nuron :Anoxinon:
     @nuron Available publicly doesn't mean you can freely reproduce it. The same way you can't freely use images that artists post publicly on Internet.
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     nuron :Anoxinon: (nuron@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:31 JST nuron :Anoxinon:

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     @Utzer mmm don't understand why they won't allow nitter. Its just taking public data and removes trackers and other unwanted stuff.

     Please tag me if you shared the detailed information

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     utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:32 JST utzer

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     • nuron :Anoxinon:
     @nuron yes, of course the child abuse stuff collides with that, but there they only asked me to take the shit down. After that they informed me that generally a service like nitter is against their TOS. I will look for the email and share that info here.
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     nuron :Anoxinon: (nuron@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:33 JST nuron :Anoxinon:

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     @Utzer ahh okay. Yes there was one subthread missing here.

     I see the problem. So probably the child abuse stuff collides with the terms I guess.
     Silly situation :/

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     utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:34 JST utzer

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     • nuron :Anoxinon:
     @nuron no, they just are very problematic, can you come here and read my other replies, I think that explains it better?
     
     There is some you won't receive, as these are to Diaspora users.
     
     social.yl.ms/display/e18176ef-…
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     nuron :Anoxinon: (nuron@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:16:35 JST nuron :Anoxinon:

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     @Utzer is it written in the terms of hetzner that they don't permit nitter? Didn't found anything yet.

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     hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:57:47 JST hypolite

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     @utzer Reproducing doesn't imply anything about altering it. Reproducing means you're publishing it yourself apart from the original publisher, whether it's the author themselves or a publishing company.
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     utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:57:48 JST utzer

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     • nuron :Anoxinon:
     @hypolite @nuron yes and that is the thing, it might not be reproducing, it is an unaltered version, at least the content and it is available in its entirety. But I didn't want to discuss with them.
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     nuron :Anoxinon: (nuron@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Monday, 05-Dec-2022 21:59:58 JST nuron :Anoxinon:

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     • hypolite

     @hypolite you are right, forgot about this.

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     hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 21:49:43 JST hypolite

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     • Austin Huang ❤
     @austin Huh, I thought Twitter themselves would go after Nitter instances, as they stand to lose revenue by not being able to monetize their content.
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     Austin Huang ❤ (austin@mstdn.ca)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 21:49:45 JST Austin Huang ❤

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     • hypolite
     • nuron :Anoxinon:

     @hypolite @nuron Nitter (along with other similar frontends) believes (of course not tried in court) that their use is legal under various provisions for proxies as well as ToS's. See also https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/482 and https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/DMCA-templates . That does not prevent people from sending DMCA takedowns regardless, and Hetzner will kick you off if there are too many DMCA takedowns (as long as they look valid?) against you (even if your use is legal).

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     utzer (utzer@social.yl.ms)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 22:36:03 JST utzer

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     • hypolite
     • Austin Huang ❤
     @hypolite nope in my case it was not Twitter, there was no take down notice for copyright infringement, it was a mere coincidence, and then they said it violates some copyright. I think especially copyright infringement requires the owner of the rights to claim that you do cause an infringement, but Hetzner just said it is infringement without being harmed themselves.
     
     @austin
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