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   georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:05:55 JST georgia
   I said something about landlords being inherently parasitic to my aunt thinking shed be a receptive audience because of being poor and having left-wing politics and a history of activism but she objected that there are good landlords
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:06:05 JST georgia

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     shes awesome though
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:13:54 JST Blurry Moon

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     Inherently is a very strong word
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:16:55 JST georgia

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     @sun youre right but I think its a great majority. such a stark position of power over someone as being able to directly render them homeless often results in abuse of this power. with other services provided if you do a bad job they can go elsewhere, its much more difficult with a shitty landlord.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:27:35 JST georgia

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     @sun housing is extremely hard for most people to afford these days not because they aren't performing worthy work, but because wages havent increased with the housing market. wages havent increased imo mostly because shareholder value go up is seen as the supreme good. for instances my aunt I mentioned performs valuable work, shes a good teacher in underperforming communities, but shell likely never be able to afford a house.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:27:36 JST Blurry Moon

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     @georgia I think it’s complicated by, yes if you view it systemically why people don’t have access to a home. But in a simple sense many people don’t do valuable enough work to afford a full house. I realize that is controversial to say but just because a human did the work doesn’t mean the value exchange will always work out to affording a good life.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:30:52 JST georgia

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     @sun thats fair but not being able to afford a house is mostly a thing among younger generations
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:30:53 JST Blurry Moon

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     @georgia of course I mean like
     
     If you are 60 and you still work at Burger King what the fuck did you expect
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:32:12 JST Blurry Moon

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     @georgia I was taking issue with “inherently” in the 1960s people could afford houses much more but there was still renting
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     renjen (subnetter@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 09:34:55 JST renjen

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     @sun @georgia
     
     If you see an elderly person working any job, you shouldn't be asking yourself what they "did" to deserve that life. You should be outraged at a government that views it's citizens as disposable meat bags.
     
     As a knowledge worker you need to see the writing on the wall, you're much closer to becoming one of the masses of poor working class Americans than you think.
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     pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 11:34:56 JST pwm

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     @subnetter @georgia @sun I'm in the fast food trenches atm, and I have ranked up to a point where I could live on my own but, if you do it long term, you pretty much have to become the boss or move on.
     Most of the people I work with are not cut out to be the boss, either from lack of desire or ability. Specifically, the older to elderly ones are usually very nice but just not super competent for one reason or another, and you can tell they're basically stuck where they are. It's a lot of factors, but anyone who is 40+ doing this shit at the bottom is either starting their life over from a messy divorce e.g. or they're fucking doomed to never escape this*.
     Idk what it would take to make their lives better, tbh (besides more money but good luck making that happen), but the reality on the ground is pretty grim.
     
     *And by this I mean living paycheck to paycheck renting, never making enough to save, unreliable transport, can't keep their light bill paid, etc etc. It's a lot of them.
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     renjen (subnetter@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 11:34:57 JST renjen

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     @sun @georgia you're not accounting for several variables and factors, you are making hypothetical assumptions about why someone does the job they have.
     
     And I would not say the work fast food workers do isn't valuable. That AI drive thru shit ain't all that.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 11:34:58 JST Blurry Moon

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     @subnetter @georgia I grew up from that class and I don’t consider it as morally inferior but it is not valuable work and that person could definitely have moved on to something better, and you know it
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 11:57:19 JST georgia

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     @sun @pwm @subnetter most people consider me pretty smart but i have no ambition and no executive functioning skills to achieve such an ambition were i to have it
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 11:57:20 JST Blurry Moon

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     @pwm @georgia @subnetter yeah and I am not even implying these people are just "dumb" or something, I have met a ton of people in my life that I KNOW are not "dumb" but they absolutely are not even trying to meet their obvious (even if "modest") potential. It's disheartening.
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     shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 12:04:48 JST shortstories

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     @georgia
     Some Land Lords save up money through hard work to buy a house

     Other Land Lords get money created out of nothing lended to them from a bank to buy a house that they never worked for then charge people rent for that house that they never worked to build nor saved up money by working to buy

     Now in some cases a land Lord borrows money from a bank to hire a construction company that hires employees to do the work to build the house

     The construction worker & tenants did all the real work

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 13:47:14 JST Blurry Moon

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     @bajax @georgia I helped landlords do property work a few times and straight up a lot of people are just scum and they destroy shit and don't care. not sorry for observing this
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 13:47:14 JST Blurry Moon

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     @bajax @georgia separate issue from if landlords are scum, obviously many (probably almost all) are
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     bajax (bajax@baj.ax)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 13:47:15 JST bajax

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     @georgia @sun being a landlord really sucks though. it's kind of stupid thing to do if you value your sanity at all-- the incentives for tenant and landlord are so at odds with each other that it encourages a kind of acrimonious relationship, and the tenant has a lot less to lose if the landlord ends up on their bad side.
     
     you're lending out an extremely expensive asset that represents a fair amount of your life's work to someone else who has no investment in it and no real permanent reason to care about it. tenants also have a ton of legal protections and they often can only be held liable for a security deposit if they damage the property.
     
     I'm sure it sucks being a renter and having them raise your rates or force you to move so they can sell the property etc. I've heard horror stories and I'm glad I've never rented-- I've only ever lived with my parents, on the streets, or owned my house.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 01-Aug-2026 13:53:09 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @georgia @pwm @subnetter @sun my mom constantly complains I'm not ambitious, classmates at uni say I should be making money already with what I can do 😔
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