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   ???? (praxisofevil@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:54 JST ????

   Will someone please tell me what to think about current political events? I lack the brain capacity to form an opinion

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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:49 JST lainy

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     • Waldbrand
     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber @Waldbrand be wary of the poster, he is a, may allah forgive me, social democrat.
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:50 JST Waldbrand

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber Its about the Complete Rejection of Violence.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:50 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand So when someone is being violent towards you, what then?
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:51 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand idk what that is exactly
     
     If it's about not aggressing, there is no difference between ancap and that
     If it's about not being willing to ever do violence, that's why I don't like it.
     
     >commune
     If it's about abolition of property, then that's aggression and needs a violent response.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:52 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand "skill issue"
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:52 JST Waldbrand

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     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber Why not Anarcho-Pacifism insteand:shyflushe: ?
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:53 JST Waldbrand

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     @PraxisOfEvil Democracy is wonderful but Anarchy would be better.
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:40:53 JST Waldbrand

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     • Waldbrand
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     @PraxisOfEvil @WandererUber I am not an Ancap.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:46:39 JST lainy

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     • Waldbrand
     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @Waldbrand @WandererUber mehr power zu dir
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:46:40 JST Waldbrand

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     • lainy
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     @lain @WandererUber Werde ich dieses mal wählen einfach nur um Blauis zu nerven.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:13 JST lainy

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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @Waldbrand *taps the sign*
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:14 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
     • Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
     @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen Just because its White and Cute tbh. Pure Vibes. My real Opinions are more National-Anarchist.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:14 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand @Jens_Rasmussen >National-Anarchist
     doesn't seem to conflict with Anarcho-Capitalism in any way.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:15 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @Waldbrand @Jens_Rasmussen okay I don't see the point in adopting an ideology that would necessitate me either dying or dropping it.
     >t. unironic ancap
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:16 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
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     @Jens_Rasmussen @WandererUber The Ultimate Pacifist would say that, correct. A Pragmatist of course would then apply Violence.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:16 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand @Jens_Rasmussen see point 1 of my response, "aggression"
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:16 JST Waldbrand

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     • Jens_Rasmussen
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     @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen As I said: The ultimate Pacifist would actually not do it and never use Aggression, regardless of what happens. A Pragmatic Person would.
     "Then the Pragmatic Person loses the Title Pacifist." Maybe.
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     Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:17 JST Jens_Rasmussen

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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Waldbrand Die.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:48:46 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @lain @Jens_Rasmussen @Waldbrand This man is your friend
     he fights for your freedom!
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     Waldbrand (waldbrand@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:54:21 JST Waldbrand

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     • lainy
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     @WandererUber @lain Okay, its very simple:
     AfD-More Military Spending, Less Social Security, Maybe less Immigration (Lol, No)
     SPD, Die Linke, BSW-No or Less Military Spending, No changes to Social Security, Migration staying the same
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:54:21 JST lainy

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     • Waldbrand
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     @Waldbrand @WandererUber doesn't matter either way so do something nice on sunday instead of voting
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:54:22 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @Waldbrand @lain "Nick Fuentes spoke about this"
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:58:35 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Waldbrand
     @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand >isn't this just a government with extra steps?
     what is? Ancap? Yes. The extra step is that it's voluntary and you can leave, plus more competition. Over the years in my head it morphed more into a model of how the world actually is, rather than how it should be.
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     PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 23:58:36 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Waldbrand What happens when the violence never ends? Isn't this just a government with extra steps?
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:37 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand >The problem is that a large disorganized population can be split.
     It seems like your disagreement is deeper than what I thought, then. You seem to be implying that anarcho-capitalism -> disorganized population. I would say that governance != government.
     For example, a state security service can warn against such attempts the same way as a voluntary one. So the core question would move to efficiency. I.e. are states or private entities more effective in detecting and countering these strategies?
     Commonly used examples include large security and insurance firms.
     
     >A government can draft the population into doing what it wants
     Are you talking about the attacker government or the defender government?
     >enforcement of a boycott
     Should we stick to the fent example or something else? What are we boycotting in this scenario?
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:37 JST lainy

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     @WandererUber @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand to slide into these messages, one way to replace passports would be to just ask credit card companies to block whatever dollar amount the country finds appropriate on entering a country and releasing it on leaving the country, forfeiting it if you do anything in the country that you shouldn't. if you can't block that amount, you can't come in. credit card companies are already much better at fine-grained reputation than the coarse "this guy is a german" system that we get with passports.
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     PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:38 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Waldbrand Huh, I hit the wrong key and deleted my response and somehow got the text to go backwards. It's bewitched!
     
     Anyways:
     >In the Chicom sense (not that you are a Fox Republican, but you get what I mean) it would be as easy as "No thank you, we don't allow Chinese people into our community."
     No, I was just using it as an easy explicit example. The (((Protocols))) are more relevant to us but also more dated. In some ways the Chicoms are our allies.
     The problem is that a large disorganized population can be split. A boycott is like a strike, it's detrimental to those doing it in the short term so undermining it can be profitable. A government can draft the population into doing what it wants, so it can cover for temporary shortfalls (like if they're flooding the market or paying off locals) and it can enforce compliance with a boycott. Note that they don't have to violate property rights to start, simply subsidize the opposition until they can take power, then they can violate property rights after it's too late to stop them.
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     PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:39 JST PoalackJokes88

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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Waldbrand Yeah, I'm a former AnCap.
     
     Basically you need a way to expel groups that are acting together to the detriment of your group. Organized warfare is easier on a state level (see the Roman conquest of the Celts, for example), but even if we grant that AnCap societies could enrich themselves to the level of being superior militaries than States, you would still need some way of getting rid of organized "crime" in a way that doesn't invalidate the premise of being AnCap.
     
     Basically if they can tailor their aggression to just below the threshold of being "aggression", they can still attack without a response.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:39 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand I see what you're getting at
     
     >Basically you need a way to expel groups that are acting together to the detriment of your group.
     >you would still need some way of getting rid of organized "crime" in a way that doesn't invalidate the premise of being AnCap.
     that's the voluntary part, isn't it. "Hey you guys are behaving in a way that we don't like, so we will stop trading or exchanging with you."
     In the Chicom sense (not that you are a Fox Republican, but you get what I mean) it would be as easy as "No thank you, we don't allow Chinese people into our community."
     
     And isn't framing it like
     >aggression to just below the threshold of being "aggression"
     a category error here? Aggression in the ancap sense is violation of property rights etc. If the Chinese are not violating anything, you still can and have to defend exactly the same way a government can (and failed to, in our case). "We have to check every single ship coming from China because you keep smuggling fent." If the Chinese agree, the subversion is neutralized. If they don't, you can stop associating.
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     • Waldbrand
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     @WandererUber @Waldbrand Yeah, that's basically it. If you can mold a population by organized subversion, democracy and anarchy are still vulnerable to attack by an organized force.
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:40 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand what is it about their organizational principle that makes other societies less vulnerable?
     
     note please that anarchy in the context of anarcho-capitalism means something very different from people sitting around a campfire and coming to a consensus, but I assume you know this. Just saying, you can get into the nitty gritty if you'd like, I know the basics
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 00:53:41 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand that book seems very interesting. I *think* I understand how you relate it to this, (you'd need a government to counter these warfare types?) but you could go into detail if you want
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 01:16:31 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     @lain @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand Okay good point then.
     >how things that are seen as wholly the sphere of the state can be done with currently existing private-ish systems instead.
     >currently existing
     Right. Good point. I agree with you fwiw
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jul-2026 01:16:32 JST lainy

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     @WandererUber @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand my motivation was to post an example of how governance can happen without government and how things that are seen as wholly the sphere of the state can be done with currently existing private-ish systems instead. feel free to ignore.
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     @lain @PoalackJokes88 @Waldbrand Isn't that another level than our issue though?
     I think PJ and I are probably closer in opinion on what to filter for than you and I, and we would both say that filtering for race is what we want. What we would be debating is how to do that in Ancapistan.
     
     If you don't have the Mr. Lee’s Greater Aryan Urheimat Hong Kong passport, you can't come in or do business here, is, I would say, also trivially enforceable.
     
     So in short, the disagreement wasn't about the governance in practice, by what measure to disallow people, just about feasibility of doing it with either a state or a voluntary company like in Ancap.
     And from where I'm standing, both your proposal and a simple ethnic filter can be implemented in both systems