@buttered_poasties Answer the fucking question, antivax scum. Who do you know who has *ever* had smallpox right now? Did the smallpox vaccine reduce or not reduce the amount of people who died from it / got it?
Again: vaccines are not "slop" they aren't "toxic". You trust altie slop uncritically. But that's beside the main problem for you, which is that smallpox isn't with us anymore. Which means Jenner's vaccine *worked*. Do you know anyone who has gotten smallpox lately? Do you admit that his vaccine prevented mass death? Why do you accept the existence of viruses when the medical scientists who verified them(and continue to, but nevermind that) were predated by those who bothered to count the death toll before and after jenner's vaccine? Why do you suppose those who had actually done that basic counting of mortality were so utterly insistent on vaccinating everyone against smallpox?
You know full well that no one you know under the age of 50 has ever had smallpox. You also know full well, or should know that smallpox was raging across the world in the beginning of the last century. And you know that there was a vaccine campaign that successfully addressed it, which kicked off modern vaccines generally. You just don't want to admit it publicly. And if you dig into the history enough you'll find that there were, then as now, antivaxxers like you. And they were wrong about basically everything just as now.
@rebootbrain@jeffcliff@buttered_poasties smh how about instead of the jew jab, we use an already dead version of smallpox and let the body build immunity against it naturally???
@jeffcliff@buttered_poasties@Hoss the media created sensational stories based on at best half truths to punish it's ideological opposition. The "Medical, Scientific communities" did not try and in many cased simply went along with it. This is how they failed. before 2020 vaccine hesitance was in the 10% range. NOW... its over 50%. Their failure was in allowing the media to control the message, the information with zero push back or correction. It will take generations to recover from this political stunt. The most successful heath measure ever has been destroyed by cowardly neurotic ideologues.
@Hoss@buttered_poasties More FUD. They didn't 'give reasonable grounds' to be skeptical of everything, especially vaccines -- that is antivax propaganda
If I was a supervillain, this is exactly what I'd do before bringing smallpox back from the dead. Which is why Bill Gates freaks me the fuck out whenever he starts talking about smallpox.
That's what we're getting at. The cult of the covid jab lead directly to long-lasting loss of faith in public health institutions, and understandably so.
@Hoss@VIcFury@buttered_poasties@captainslow Uh no it's not "understandably so". It's because of people like jenny mccarthy and the lies they have been allowed to spread, and those who run defence for those who are spreading those lies.
@jeffcliff@Hoss@VIcFury@buttered_poasties no. it’s because they rushed medicine than coerced uptake when everything else would have still been considered experimental At the same stage.
The idea of 'vax passport' was to assume that it was OK to go to parties and bars during a fucking pandemic if you were vaccinated. It never was, and I was always against people using that excuse to mix while the pandemic was happening.
I wanted firing squads and gas chambers, NOT vax passports.
Vax passports was a compromise with mostly wealthy covidiots that should have never been allowed.
Last I checked you told the dalits overstaying their student visas to please leave and most of them said "no sar I was promised Tim Hortons job saaar".
@captainslow@VIcFury@buttered_poasties@Hoss TB is a consequence of covid . It is an AIDS-defining illness, and when you wreck your immune system with covid you make yourself susceptible to it
And "indians" are no more filthy than the big chunk of white country boys who don't even wash their hands after taking a shit here
@jeffcliff@buttered_poasties@captainslow@Hoss McCarthy appealed to weirdo crunchy moms... Mostly in Affluent Urban areas who wanted an autistic child to status signal with. it was kinda low tier boredom coping by affluent soccer moms. Prior to 2020, I didn't know anyone who agreed with her. Most people laughed at her.
@buttered_poasties@VIcFury@captainslow@Hoss Big altie idiot who is too ignorant to even assess whether jenny mccarthy is right or wrong because your level of ignorance goes decades further back. What's disgusting is covidiots like YOU who unknowingly spread immune system and brain damaging diseases through your ignorance
But again how many people do you know under 50 who have ever had smallpox? Why has jenny mccarthy never had smallpox? What is the death ratio between smallpox and cowpox and do people who get one die of the other?
@jeffcliff@buttered_poasties@captainslow@Hoss Then, there's this... which is absolutely the way to respond if you want people to hear your message. This is the typical academic today.
@VIcFury@buttered_poasties@captainslow@Hoss sorry your video clips do not meet the level of importance that I would ever click any of them especially without a 'creative commons' tag
Unfortunately I ran across quite a few adam@psyopshop.com is a good example of an early-naughts antivaxxer who had every bit of ignorance and hatred of medical science that that would show itself in a larger scale later
I only ever saw redditors talking about her while melting the fuck down whenever they found some news article about a few McCarthy mom kids catching measles like it was the harbinger of the apocalypse.
Your assumtptions about what went down with smallpox are misguided.
Here is a doctor at the time of smallpox, who scientifically (using numbers) disputed any claims of the "vaccine" helping anyone.
it's not even really fair to call it a vaccine. it was variolation -- and doctors made up their own concoctions of pus and and then scraped it into the skin using a lancet. there was no vaccine.
hypodermic needles were not a thing at the time.
Alfred Russell Wallace changed from being a proponent to being a critic, due to his own observations and then scientific validations.
You believe the story that pharma paid for, so in your mind, the story of smallpox "vaccine" justifies all vaccination.
Prior to covid madness, my basic surface-level understanding of how traditional vaccines functioned made enough logical sense to me that most of the time I would just trust my doctor and take the jabs he recommended at checkup. I remember going to a checkup right before the scamdemic kicked off, and the only jab-related discussion that came up at all was for that Gardasil jab which I'd remembered hearing some vague sussy murmurings about online. Boomer doc was like "hey you're totally crushing strange on campus all the time, right? We got this new vax to protect yourself if you're interested" only for me to shut him down, informing him I was a trvecel sigma king who had no need for such a jab. He just moved on and didn't push the issue at all after I said I didn't want it, perhaps because he realize the vaxxes I had already received had maxxed out my autism years prior. Up until covid that was basically every jab offered at the doctor's office, if you didn't want it you could just say "no" and there was no moral panic around that decision.