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   Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 11:53:20 JST Evan Prodromou

   I am a qualified disagree. There's a time and place to call out all the great services, protocols and software in the fediverse. That time and place are not the first 5 minutes someone has heard of the network. If people say "Mastodon", just say "Mastodon". And then help them along as the learn more.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 11:54:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     I appreciate when people take the time to mention ActivityPub, but I would way rather have more people on the network.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 11:57:31 JST Evan Prodromou

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     When you get a chance, thank the hundreds of people who made this experience possible, and who are making it better every day.

     And the people who made this network an incredible social environment.

     But let's keep the party rolling and not trip over our own feet.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:00:45 JST Evan Prodromou

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     And feel free to correct my language and framing. I'm on side, happy to be taught.

     I may or may not use your phrasing when talking to other people, but I'll listen and remember.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:02:09 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Packy Anderson

     @packy I don't understand the fine distinction you're trying to make. Is it important for us to tease it apart?

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     Packy Anderson (packy@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:02:10 JST Packy Anderson

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     @evan Right, but that's not "calling it all Mastodon." If you're talking about other things, they're not all "Mastodon". If you're talking about just Mastodon, you don't need to drag in all the related networks.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@prodromou.pub)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:35:55 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Oleg "Ole" R. ??????

     @ole there's actually math for this

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     Oleg "Ole" R. ?????? (ole@mstdn.ca)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:35:56 JST Oleg "Ole" R. ??????

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     @evan I qualifiedly agree with your qualified disagreement, for the same qualified reasons

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     David Young :funkypenguin: (funkypenguin@so.fnky.nz)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:41:36 JST David Young :funkypenguin:

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     @evan paging RMS... :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy

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     Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified: (mattl@social.mat.tl)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:41:36 JST Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified:

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     • David Young :funkypenguin:

     @funkypenguin @evan nobody really calls it that. Some pretend to but literally everyone calls it Linux.

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     Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified: (mattl@social.mat.tl)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:44:29 JST Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified:

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     • djsumdog

     @djsumdog @evan Is anyone using or worrying about OStatus or GNU social anymore though? Best part of 15 years later and I don’t know of anyone really using those things anymore… times have changed.

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 12:44:30 JST djsumdog

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     No. :blobcatstop: Say "Fediverse" .. this whole thing was around long before Eugene and will be here long after. Even ActivityPub isn't honest either because we had OStatus and PumpIO and GNUSocial and an entire fucking plethora of glued together garbage to get here. It's not "The Mastodon Network." Over 25% of us don't run Masto. That's like saying the Web is "Google Chrome" ... (I also hate it when people say they "Google" something .. say "Search for" .. you don't jizz into a fucking kelnex, you use a tissue).
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     David Young :funkypenguin: (funkypenguin@so.fnky.nz)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 13:15:34 JST David Young :funkypenguin:

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     • Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified:

     @mattl right, which goes to @evan's point that mindshare / users are more important than technical accuracy, at this point. Like "the cloud" :)

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     Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified: (mattl@social.mat.tl)'s status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2022 13:15:34 JST Dr. Matt Lee ?:verified:

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     • David Young :funkypenguin:

     @funkypenguin @evan I think caring about users trumps anything else. Imagine if GNU focused on users and not being seen as the smartest people in the room?