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@davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 he also apparently may be some kind of advisor in a danish public professional IT advisory group: https://bsky.app/profile/prosaole.bsky.social (as found by @fasterandworse )
username under that profile has parallel-posting: https://old.reddit.com/user/prosaole/
skeeter profile pic and google scholar image match pretty closely, although aging appears to be at different epochs
Aral Balkan
@svuorela @froztbyte @davidgerard @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse So, @prosaole, what the fuck, dude?
Sune Stolborg Vuorela
@froztbyte @davidgerard @aral @usernameswift @ajn142 @fasterandworse
He is @prosaole here. He works for 'Prosa' - one of the bigger IT-specific employee unions in Denmark and has done for like more than a decade.
It is 15years since I worked with him, but maybe he changed over the years; I'm at least a bit surprised. I also think it is a decade since I last met him.
Alexandre Oliva
Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус
@tange I see. Thank you for replying. Maybe it would be an idea to review the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines. Imagine that you are a person who is a victim of an event that is used as a release name or possibly you are a close relative of a victim and you are bringing up your own GNU system. At some point you run into GNU Parallel. What thoughts might someone have at such a moment. And what if more packages would adopt a naming style like this.
We live in an era with extreme news events, so much that we may become numb to headlines. At the same time there are still human beings behind these events who may end up using your software. It seems best to find ways to make it as comfortable for them as possible. As such if it is not commemoration, the risk is that it may be confrontational, triggering negative emotions. That would be unfortunate and I believe something you may not want either.
Ole Tange
> in general it is quite commendable to remind people of events/people outside of the IT sphere that should not be neglected/forgotten and deserve attention.
But that is not the goal. You are reading a political statement into something that is just a name.
Instead you should more see it as a proxy for the date: "What was the big unpredictable thing that happened this month?" Think Wikipedia's NPOV.
Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус
@tange @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole in general it is quite commendable to remind people of events/people outside of the IT sphere that should not be neglected/forgotten and deserve attention. I looked over several names and I think they do fit that purpose as one can easily figure out the context and truth behind them.
In this case however, it is not easy to figure out what is behind the name and my initial searches let to the report itself and did not provide the right context. As others mentioned it can also be seen as a nazi dog-whistle.
We should pay attention to white-supremacy and all the horrible things coming from there, but that does require context such that people understand what is going on. In this case I think the risk is big that someone will find this report itself and not understand its origin and purpose. It would be right to find a way to address this. Misinformation such as this report and nazism are very dangerous and should not be underestimated.
Ole Tange
@aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole
Did you read https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/20th-birthday.html
> Each version also carries a code name. The name is inspired by current events. https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group=parallel
The list includes Mamdani, Støjberg, Al-Aqsa Deluge, Arrest Warrant, Aylan Kurdi, Friday for Future, Boko Haram, Bataclan, Roe vs Wade.
In other words, events that received international attention that month, without me taking a position on them.
I believe this month's name also lives up to that standard.
翠星石
Poul-Henning Kamp
@tange @aral @svuorela @davidgerard @prosaole
May I suggest you change the rules so you choose a notable headline which made you smile ?
That would still allow you to comment on current events, such as the deaths of horrible people, without yourself being taken for one.
Ole Tange
@phloggen @aral @svuorela @davidgerard
> That would still allow you to comment on current events, such as the deaths of horrible people, without yourself being taken for one.
To me *that* would be showing a clear bias: One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
Looking through the names I still believe the bias is fairly limited (with the personal names such as Nai Soi being exceptions).
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