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Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 (osma@mas.to)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jul-2026 22:32:47 JST Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
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TBF, bike rack design has basically never accommodated bikes. At least we're getting some models that aren't just for bending front wheels out of shape - but there's rarely enough space allocated for bikes.
The bike I ride the most km on doesn't have a motor, but its gears are e-actuated. I call it the "bike with mike."
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  Pepijn (pepijn@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jul-2026 22:32:49 JST Pepijn
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  @CiaraNi Noooo Ciara! They're bicycles! Let's not define them against something that they are not!
  We moved beyond horseless buggies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseless_carriage) just fine.
  (it was your comment that made me think of this btw https://mastodon.green/@CiaraNi/116866796690168256)
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    Horseless carriage is an early name for the motor car or automobile. Prior to the invention of the motor car, carriages were usually pulled by animals, typically horses. The term can be compared to other transitional terms, such as wireless phone. These are cases in which a new technology is compared to an older one by describing what the old one does not have. Most horseless carriages are notable for their similarity to existing horse-drawn carriages, but with some type of mechanical propulsion. Features of the first horseless carriages include tiller steering, an engine under the floorboards, and a high center of gravity. In the 19th century, steam engines became the primary source of power for railway locomotives and ships, and for powering processes in fixed installations such as factories. In 1803, what is said to have been the first horseless carriage was a steam-driven vehicle demonstrated in London, England, by Richard Trevithick. In the 1820s, Goldsworthy Gurney built steam-powered road vehicles. One has survived to be on display at Glasgow Museum of Transport. In the United States, a four-wheel steam carriage was made by Sylvester H. Roper in 1863....
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    My own bike is acoustic. And has a chainguard. So it doesn't smear oil. But like many modern city bikes, it has wide handlebars and a big basket. So it's not just e-bikes that don't fit in bike racks. It's not the fault of the e-bike owners that they can't fix their bikes securely so they remain upright in wind. I struggle with the weight of some of the e-bikes, though. Bad bike racks create an accessibility issue if your bike gets stuck under an e-bike that is too heavy for you to lift up.
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  Ciara (ciarani@mastodon.green)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jul-2026 22:32:49 JST Ciara
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  @Pepijn Oh agreed! I only say 'bikes' normally. There are just specific contexts in which it's necessary to distinguish. The bike mechanic asks when you book a full service because it gives an idea how long it'll take her. When I'm grumbling about bike racks, there are specific problems because rack design doesn't accommodate e-bikes and cargo bikes. Although now that you say it, I may start saying horseless buggies for all of them.
  
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  Ciara (ciarani@mastodon.green)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jul-2026 22:32:50 JST Ciara
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  @Pepijn Ah, interesting! I didn't know 'acoustic bike' was a general term and I am happy to learn it is. I've just been using it as my own shorthand for 'not an electric bike'. My bike mechanic uses the term 'rugbrødscykel'. I didn't think Ryebread Bike would catch on in English. Although I do like the idea of calling them Brown Bread Bikes.
  
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