Martin Rundkvist
Sweden has a senseless proliferation of archaeology departments. There's one for every 1.3 million inhabitants here. In Denmark, that number is 1 per 3.0 million. In Poland, it's 1 per 4.1 million.
My firm belief is that a person without inherited wealth should only study courses that fit into a degree that will lead to a steady job. Otherwise you just go into debt and lose time needlessly. It's better to drive a bus without study debt than with study debt.
Aral Balkan
@mrundkvist @dibi58 So only people with inherited wealth should be able to do what they want and others should drive buses? Isn’t that already how it is in many places? Why are we taking the capitalist concept of “earning a living” as sacrosanct?
How about building a society where you can be an archaeologist if you want to and we thank you for your contributions to human knowledge instead of punishing you for not driving a bus?
Aral Balkan
@mrundkvist @JimmyB So, you’re an archaeologist.
Did you have generational wealth? Or did you have to drive a bus? (Not sure what’s wrong with driving a bus but let’s say you didn’t like doing it.)
Do you not find archaeology interesting?
Would you rather be in tech?
(I’m in tech, and I can tell you the mainstream is a shithole. You might be familiar with some of the turds that float in it… Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Jeff Bezos, …)
I mean, I’m just really confused here given you’re saying this and you’re an archaeologist. It kinda reads like you only want to be surrounded by people with generational wealth in your field which is… classist?
What am I missing?
Martin Rundkvist
@JimmyB
I'm talking to the poor kids. Be smart. Get a marketable education.
You assume that it is valuable to the individual to study Latvian poetry. It is not. A degree in Latvian poetry is a self-inflicted handicap.
JimmyB (he/him)
@afewbugs @mrundkvist @dibi58 @aral but what you describe is hard right wing dystopia Martin. This is exactly what our fascist leaders call further: division of educational opportunities based on wealth (which ends quickly in being deeply racist). You might see it is utopian to disagree but I see culling the arts of poor kids as just more fascism.
Martin Rundkvist
@afewbugs @aral @dibi58
I'm interested in actual young people today, not in utopianism. Citizens don't pay university tuition in Sweden. Everybody gets student loans. My advice is to study something that will reliably get you an interesting job. Our higher education system won't tell you which programmes do that, and which will have you driving a bus or taking on more debt for re-training afterwards.
Jules she/her
@aral @mrundkvist @dibi58 I'd also like to see a society where you study archaeology (biology/social sciences/astrophysics/linguistics) if you're genuinely interested in learning about archaeology (biology/social sciences/astrophysics/linguistics) and want to contribute to human knowledge of the subject, rather having to study something you don't really want to and accumulating debt in order to get a job in a bank or company. But a society where learning more about the world is valued, even if you don't personally understand the importance or appeal of what the person is learning, is always a good thing
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