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   cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 15:27:48 JST cjd
   With the evolution of batteries, it looks as though internal combustion engines will be relegated to some pretty narrow niches - if not supplanted entirely.
   
   But there's something about them that EVs can never really replace, and it doesn't seem to even have a name. Internal Combustion Engines are "alive" in a way that electric motors can never be.
   
   > That's just how you perceive it, human
   
   Don't care. It's our world, technology should exist on our terms.
   
   Even if electric motors and batteries win every race, (video) is something they can never really do (unless through a pathetic bunch of fake technological theater).
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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 15:27:46 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @cjd
     Needless romantization of flawed, outdated technology we've grown past.

     It'd be a bit like saying "90s computers were more alive because they had super loud fans and hard drive clicks" or "VHS was more alive because of the wow effect"

     In fact, this video gave me huge Ren Faire and "millennial burger joint" vibes.

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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 16:07:55 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @menherahair
     Now go use one as your daily driver.

     Go on.
     @cjd

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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 16:07:56 JST menherahair

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     • Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer
     @r000t @cjd >90s computers were more alive because they had super loud fans and hard drive clicks
     TRVKE
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:52:37 JST cjd

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     Transfer rates of pumping gasoline are actually solved. The amount of voltage and amperage in the cables is terrifying, but it does work and it's in production now.
     
     Energy density of gasoline (30% usable) is about 4 kWh/kg, and current batteries are about 0.25 kWh/kg. 0.5 is in the lab, 1 is probably attainable this decade. However, nobody outside of aviation really cares.
     
     The BIG convenience of gasoline is you can carry it in a jerrycan. But again, the places where this is really important are very niche.
     
     EVs don't have to beat ICEs on every metric, they just have to win at enough to be a better deal. A horse can use grass as fuel, and grass grows everywhere - yet cars still replaced horses.
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     Sir ReadyKilowatt (readykilowatt@noauthority.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:52:38 JST Sir ReadyKilowatt

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     @cjd "But there's something about them that EVs can never really replace,"

     The energy density and easy transfer of gasoline?

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:59:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Quercus
     All things break. I think you're applying two different standards or you're not clear on what standard you're applying, and it's causing you to misunderstand the costs and risks inherent in each form of potential energy.
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     Quercus (quercus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:59:58 JST Quercus

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     • Sir ReadyKilowatt
     Not for the actual production, though.
     You can put a solar array somewhere in the bush and live off it. You can't make it there, that is part of what I meant with "industrial purposes".
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:59:58 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Quercus
     At the point of production of energy, gas doesn't require digging either.
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     Quercus (quercus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:59:58 JST Quercus

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     • Sir ReadyKilowatt
     If the solar array factory stops working, all the already running arrays continue to work until their natural demise.
     If the refinery stops, it's a few weeks at most until everything dependent on fuel stops.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 19:59:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Quercus
     Electricity requires digging in the earth too though, so I'm not following your logic here.
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     Quercus (quercus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 21-May-2026 20:00:00 JST Quercus

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     • Sir ReadyKilowatt
     The big downside of gasoline is that it has to be drilled out of the earth and produced in a refinery.
     Electricity can be produced almost everywhere with very little effort.
     Sure, the technological development ran differently (it was easier to transport fuel somewhere than to use electricity - many alpine huts had/have gas lighting for that reason), but today it is entirely possible to have off-grid electricity - not in a city and not for industrial purposes.