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   GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 02:22:20 JST GrapheneOS

   The claims made about GrapheneOS in this interview are extremely inaccurate. It heavily misrepresents the purpose of GrapheneOS and what we've worked on for years. The claim GrapheneOS is a security project rather than a privacy project is misinformation. Contacts are specifically brought up and yet our Contact Scopes feature is ignored. @fla knows GrapheneOS is a privacy project. He replied to a thread with our response to this misinformation only 4 days ago...

   https://piaille.fr/@projetslibres_podcast/116379561169492214

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 02:22:19 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Framasoft

     @GrapheneOS Maybe talk to the @Framasoft folks directly; they’re good people. Everyone isn’t out to get you. It’s not doing your reputation any favours to respond to any mention of GrapheneOS that doesn’t recite the technical manual 100% correctly with a sledgehammer. And I say that as someone who has a lot of respect for your project and wants to see GrapheneOS succeed long term.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 05:14:05 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Framasoft

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft I’m confused, “he” is the Murena guy, right, not the Framasoft folks?

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 05:14:06 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Aral Balkan
     • Framasoft

     @aral @Framasoft He directly responded to the thread we published 4 days ago addressing Murena once again claiming the kind of privacy and security hardening work done by GrapheneOS and iPhones is only useful to criminals and spies. In that thread, we directly addressed these repeated inaccurate claims about the purpose, goals and approach of GrapheneOS which wrongly portray it as a security project rather than a privacy project. His claims in the interview are more than egregiously inaccurate.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 05:21:59 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Framasoft

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft OK, I just managed to find the rest of the thread. So the issue is the same talking points were apparently used in the podcast.

     I’m still of the mind that the right approach is to talk to the Framasoft folks about it instead of at them but I’ll leave it here.

     Just remember that we’re trying to help. If we didn’t care, we’d just watch.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 15:42:53 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Fla

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft @fla OK, I found the English transcript.

     They’re right that security and privacy are not the same thing but where it misses the point is that you cannot have privacy without security. Security is a prerequisite for privacy.

     And yes, the claim that GrapheneOS isn’t about privacy is just plain wrong.

     They have issued one correction on the article, so clearly there’s a desire to be constructive. And I’m sure they will issue another regarding the privacy claims.

     > Remember the distinction. If an app has access to your contacts or things like that that include trackers, GrapheneOS isn’t going to try to prevent that, it’s going to let the app run normally. [Correction by Walid and Antoine: The original version of the text used the wrong example of contacts. GrapheneOS actually has a mechanism for isolating contacts between applications, called “Contacts scopes”. Thanks to the GrapheneOS project for pointing this out to us. To learn more about the privacy features in GrapheneOS, visit this page: https://grapheneos.org//faq#security-and-privacy ]

     I think the issue might be more that the person being interviewed uses e OS and Framasoft have spoken to the Murena folks but maybe not spoken with you? So their information is from those sources. Maybe they could also do an interview with you as well?

     Because, yes, systems with compromised security models are not better for your privacy, they provide you with the illusion of privacy that will shatter with the first security breach. It’s like putting shades on your windows but leaving the door unlocked.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 15:42:54 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Aral Balkan
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     • Fla

     @aral @Framasoft There hasn't been any correction to the outrageous claims made by @fla that GrapheneOS isn't a privacy and isn't doing much about privacy. That's extraordinarily inaccurate and dismisses the massive amount of work we've done to advance privacy. Meanwhile, he's promoting operating systems which haven't done similar work to advance privacy. They aren't fixing VPN leaks, aren't implementing comparable privacy features and don't keep up with standard privacy patches/protections.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:40:06 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Fla

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft @fla Again, knowing the Framasoft folks I don’t understand why that would be. You guys should really talk as you share the same goals.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:40:07 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Fla

     @aral @Framasoft @fla The most egregious inaccurate claims made about GrapheneOS haven't been addressed. Nothing has been done about the content of the podcast itself.

     It's also important to note there are widespread attacks on the GrapheneOS project and our team which are largely tied to Framasoft including using their Mastodon instance. Framasoft's Mastodon instance has been a massive source of attacks on the GrapheneOS project and team including harassment for quite some time now.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:40:08 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Fla

     @aral @Framasoft @fla There's a comparison between AOSP-based operating systems at https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm which has comparisons of privacy features and default connections. It's far from complete and only covers default connections which come from AOSP. /e/ adds multiple additional connections to Google not present in AOSP by default along with other problematic connections. They've made decisions such as adding a random unique ID to their update client connections, etc.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:40:09 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Fla

     @aral @Framasoft @fla He made one small correction. However, the article is still claiming GrapheneOS isn't a privacy project and that we don't work much on privacy which is thoroughly wrong. GrapheneOS has a bunch of major privacy enhancements both through adding important privacy features and fixing Android privacy vulnerabilities including VPN leaks. We have multiple privacy features and additional VPN leak fixes in progress. We posted a thread responding to that at https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116382616003990894.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:53:09 JST GrapheneOS

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     @aral @Framasoft @fla @aral @Framasoft @fla We've already posted numerous replies addressing why the statements they're making about GrapheneOS are extremely inaccurate. Mots of it hasn't been acknowledged. The only part which was acknowledged is the existence of Contact Scopes. Nothing has been done about the egregiously false claims of GrapheneOS not being a privacy project and not working much on privacy. It's completely backwards and in fact applies to what they're trying to promote instead.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:58:12 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Fla

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft @fla They’re in this thread. So it might be a good place to start a dialogue. And maybe set up a time so you can talk about it together.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 11-Apr-2026 23:58:13 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Fla

     @GrapheneOS @Framasoft @fla What I’m saying is, you’re talking at them. Have you tried talking *to* them?