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    Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Mar-2026 23:31:41 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
    • Kim Perales

    It turns out GenAI code changes are causing serious incidents and outages at Amazon with "high blast radius" https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de

    Junior / middle engineers no longer allowed to push GenAI code to production without senior engineer review

    (HT @KimPerales )

    In conversation about 7 months ago from social.coop permalink

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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 00:34:22 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      Here's a different article about the same topic https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/amazon-calls-engineers-to-address-issues-caused-by-use-of-ai-tools-report-claims-company-says-recent-incidents-had-high-blast-radius-and-were-allegedly-related-to-gen-ai-assisted-changes

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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        In wake of outage, Amazon calls upon senior engineers to address issues created by 'Gen-AI assisted changes,' report claims — recent 'high blast radius' incidents stir up changes for code approval
        Amazon says it's a routine meeting
      Steve's Place repeated this.
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      deech (deech@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 01:10:13 JST deech deech
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      • Kim Perales

      @cwebber @KimPerales I'll bet $100 the incidents would have happened even with sign off. No one wants to review slop.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:25:54 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      And even another link https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/03/after-outages-amazon-to-make-senior-engineers-sign-off-on-ai-assisted-changes/

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        Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages
        Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’
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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:41:33 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      • Z̈oé
      • mcc
      • Kim Perales

      @uint8_t @mcc @KimPerales The current trajectory is: don't hire any new junior engineers. Instead, management generates the slop PRs themselves and sends them to senior engineers. "Hey, what do you think?" and you have to figure out how to tell your boss "I'm sorry but this is really bad" and they won't understand why

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Z̈oé (uint8_t@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:41:35 JST Z̈oé Z̈oé
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      • mcc
      • Kim Perales

      @mcc @cwebber @KimPerales also the vibe coder junior will hardly mature into senior

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
      Christine Lemmer-Webber repeated this.
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      mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:41:36 JST mcc mcc
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      • Kim Perales

      @cwebber @KimPerales "without senior engineer review"

      okay so this hits on an issue i've been thinking a *lot* about

      i won't use LLM code generators. i believe i can find a job where i don't have to use LLM code generators. but i would probably still be forced to *work with people who do*. and if someone on your team vibecodes, you vibecode. the work of a vibecoder is code-review and checking. but everyone checks everyone's code. so they're pushing their work onto me. i'm vibecoding for them.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:41:36 JST mcc mcc
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      • Kim Perales

      @cwebber @KimPerales amazon just formalized this. my criticism. "they tweeted it out". if what the junior vibecoder does is review the generated code, but amazon must mandated the senior engineer does the actual review, then why do you have junior engineers at all? the senior engineer in this case now does the junior engineer's entire job as amazon defines it.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Mar-2026 02:42:13 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      • Z̈oé
      • mcc
      • Kim Perales

      @uint8_t @mcc @KimPerales It won't last that way forever but I think that could be the sad interim state we are heading towards for a while

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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