Paul Cantrell
@nazokiyoubinbou @ramsey @maya_b
It will first take the form of people just getting a little quieter about Trump. Then they won’t really be talking about him. Then, after an interval, obviously he killed Epstein and they never really liked him.
Gratifying mea culpas will be few and far between.
Nazo
@ramsey @maya_b @inthehands I would really like to see more of an inside view. I can say some of the diehard loyalists (like my frigging parents — they aren't openly MAGA but might as well be called closet MAGA) don't seem to have processed this yet.
Nazo
@ramsey @maya_b @inthehands Oh every accusation from the right is a confession. That Trump was in on all that from the start was obvious even back then. The tricky part is just getting his base to see such a thing.
Like you say, the "vibe" is the issue. He somehow repeated the right words over and over and had them thinking only Democrats could be involved. Something about the break between then and now shifted stuff I guess? Or maybe not. I'll believe it when I see the base actually turn
Ben Ramsey
@nazokiyoubinbou @maya_b @inthehands My parents live in Marjorie Taylor Greene’s district. Given that she’s making the rounds, talking about how Trump has lied and is a fraud, I wonder how the vibes are among those who put her into office.
Ben Ramsey
@maya_b @nazokiyoubinbou @inthehands As Paul said, it’s all about the vibes. I’d prefer Trump be taken down over something more meaningful to our democracy, like his ties to Russia, voter suppression, etc.—for the fascism to be clearly revealed—but those don’t get the vibes. Still, for him to be wrapped up in the very things that drove the QAnon conspiracies, maybe that’s not such a bad take-down either.
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