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   Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 11:00:43 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

   A quote that resonates with me every day is historian Robin DG Kelley, who said "The ground zero of a liberated world is Palestine." I feel like it's the hinge issue between a decolonialized world on the path to reconciliation and justice, and a fascist world of industrial-scale savagery. And it doesn't feel like there's any middle ground.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 11:02:31 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     I know a lot of people feel like politicians can fight Trump and still support a genocide. I don't think it's possible, even if it weren't unconscionable.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 11:03:05 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     So, I'm Yes, full stop.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 11:18:29 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     @arod yeah, but I wish he'd chosen a better metaphor than "Ground Zero"!

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     Alex Rodríguez (arod@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 11:18:31 JST Alex Rodríguez

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     @evan every time an RDGK quote appears in my timeline, an angel gets its wings. Spot on!

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 22:42:43 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     • Quinn Norton

     @quinn you should tell that part of you to stop being a genocide hipster. You've internalized whataboutist propaganda. Shake it off.

     Genocide is a crime against humanity even if the people being killed aren't black enough.

     Palestine is colonially occupied land.

     Colonialism does not always break down on white-black lines.

     Whiteness is a social construct and it is contextual.

     People like me and my family are considered disposable because we are Orientalized and othered.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 22:42:44 JST Quinn Norton

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     @evan there's a part of me that wants to reject caring about Gaza until there's some real attention paid to the hell on earth that is Sudan, which is ten times the scale, but the people being tortured and killed are black. So no one cares. I know it's possible to walk and chew gum, care about both. But the white supremacy of it all... The fact the West has debates about Palestine, I promise people wouldn't care so much if they weren't basically white.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 22:57:44 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     @quinn there are some really good books on Palestine that might be helpful.

     The Hundred Year War on Palestine is very good.

     The World After Gaza is also good.

     My cousin wrote a book about her experience and about our family. It's called Find Me at the Jaffa Gate, Michaela Sahhar.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 23:18:35 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     • Slim Amamou

     @quinn @slim

     Write a one-paragraph update about the war in Sudan for your Patreon.

     UNICEF has a fund specifically for children in Sudan. If you add a link to your newsletter, and get just one donation, you've helped.

     https://www.unicef.org/sudan/

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 23:18:37 JST Quinn Norton

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     • Slim Amamou

     @slim @evan if I had some way of helping in Gaza or Sudan, I'd do it. But posting flags or whatnot, I don't see the point. I could write about these things, and I have a bit, but I have no audience for it. If I find an angle that would help in either conflict, I'd take it. But I suspect there's also more leverage in talking about Sudan, because there's less attention paid to it. Except there's also the barrier of getting people to care about black Africans.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 23:18:38 JST Quinn Norton

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     @slim @evan so yeah, coming from a country that generally classes middle easterner as white, esp gulf states, stupid or not (and fundamentally all these categories are stupid) Sudan is a pretty horrific case of colonialism. Now, I've got just as much power to affect each situation, which is none at all. But the terrible coverage of Sudan, even in the region, well, I'm pretty sure that's still racism. I have heard how a lot of folks in North Africa talk about dark skin Africans.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 23:18:39 JST Quinn Norton

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     @slim @evan by some definitions, there's also no white people involved in the Israel Gaza conflict, but if you'd say they are white people there, then Sudan is definitely a proxy war financed and directed by the white people of the UAE. My point is 10x people can die nearby in the region, in the most horrifying ways, and it barely makes the news. And I think we both know why.

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     Slim Amamou (slim@mastodon.tn)'s status on Thursday, 22-Jan-2026 23:18:44 JST Slim Amamou

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     @quinn @evan Sudan is not a case of white colonialism. Nobody wants white people to care or get (even more) involved in that, because obviously it will only make things worse. OTOH white people are committing genocide in Palestine, so you should care, you are already involved.

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 23-Jan-2026 11:03:07 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     • Quinn Norton

     @quinn no, as a Palestinian, I need to keep my focus on the genocide at hand.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Friday, 23-Jan-2026 11:03:08 JST Quinn Norton

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     @evan have you spent some time looking into what's going on in Sudan?

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     Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸 (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2026 16:44:08 JST Evan Prodromou 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇷🇵🇸

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     • Quinn Norton

     @quinn I think this conversation is over. Good luck, Quinn.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Saturday, 24-Jan-2026 16:44:09 JST Quinn Norton

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     @evan it's horrific, and it really goes back to the Janjaweed and the genocides going back to the late 80s. Whole towns have have vanished, replaced be giant piles of bodies. In some places every woman has been raped, even children. The RSF policy is to wipe out the Sudanese with rape, so all of the next generation will be the children of Janjaweed forces. Wiping people off the face of the Earth with total rape. UAE is funding them to get cheap gold from wildcat mining.

     No one cares.