and these countries were prosperous when they were ruled by Whites
40% "extreme poverty" pre-Chavez was not prosperity. It was a slave-farm. Bovines as food and beasts of burden is one thing, but humanoids are something else.
Note: the jews are taking us to the same place - as their slaves. Slavery is a jewish mentality.
The oil prosperity only ended due to "sanctions" - not due to diverting some of the spoils to making life decent for the majority.
... nothing will improve as long as these countries are run by retarded bean niggers
Not just "run by" - "filled with" - which is the core-problem. I have no ill will towards them (most earnestly "mean well") but, a "civilization project" of them is freaking hopeless. It's sad. It's why they have to leave our homelands.
If I thought those lands could be turned into something decent without exterminating billions of people, I might support a colonial project - AND, if it actually benefited regular White folks (never has, historically). This is the primary reason for my "make them nature preserve habitats" position. Then, we continue doing White things, and reach for the stars.
@PopulistRight@Humpleupagus@Oven_Operators_LU_88@Some_German_Guy the fact that these countries are filled with lazy 85-95 IQ browns is completely compatible with being governed by Whites (as opposed to the niggers who are completely useless), and these countries were prosperous when they were ruled by Whites
and then the Jews fought to make them communist vassals of the soviets
so, they could be fixed if the democracy and communism was gotten rid of (would help to get rid of the Jews too)
That is not inconsistent with: "Opposing evil is always correct" - and specifically, participation of one's nation in doing evil - as well as wasting our blood and treasure on projects which only enrich elite scum.
I don't think that will happen, I don't think the people in charge right now are good - I just think that all of the old concepts of nations and democracy and shit should be rejected and that things would be better if America fixed its shit and became the empire it has fought hard not to be
I think Venezuela and the rest of the brownoid nations need to either be put under the boot or genocided because if they aren't their problems will continue to be my problems for some stupid reason - and nothing will improve as long as these countries are run by retarded bean niggers
@brigrammer@Humpleupagus@Oven_Operators_LU_88@Some_German_Guy Yeah, I think they have enough "refugees" imported to meet their requirements. And, clearly, Trump has no intention of doing the one thing which would get them gone - felony-busting their employers, so they all get fired and leave. Combined with the Treason-Visas, this ensures the "threat" of having to pay Americans a decent wage is not a likely-risk, in the near-term.
And, yes, it can be more than one reason. I would say the Venezuela bit is to get hold of the oil, and to satisfy the burning hate of the Cuban "latino plantation" crew, like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.
Those guys are desperate to bring back the "good 'ol days," when 40% of Venezuelans were "extreme poverty" homeless and hungry, and didn't know how to read. National leaders like Chavez and Gadaffi, who use oil revenue to help their people, make them ANGRY. That's THEIR money, buried in the ground, after all.
Those guys are desperate to bring back the "good 'ol days," when 40% of Venezuelans were "extreme poverty" homeless and hungry, and didn't know how to read
I have no strong opinions on the governments of these nations, I just hate the people from these brownoid nations that are here
debating the "morality" of Imperial politics and speculating on whether an American puppet government would be less or more evil than the current puppet government is silly
they can't come by land, border is closed - they can't come by boat because they would get blown up
and as for the geopolitical reasons they are doing this attack - there are a ton of competing plausible reasons from fucking with Cuba, fucking with the intelligence agencies, fucking with City of London, fucking with China, needing oil so we can fuck with Canada, etc.
anyone who claims they know which of these is the correct reason (and it could be a combination or all of the above or something else) is full of shit
since I hate the bean-niggers, I am happy with any reason for them to get fucked
@PopulistRight@Humpleupagus@Oven_Operators_LU_88@Some_German_Guy I know you subscribe to these ideas of "rights" - but were I an oil executive and my oil infrastructure was seized by some filthy brownoid communist, I would hire mercenaries to drop chemical weapons on his ancestral people and kill everyone he loved - and I would happily lose huge amounts of money to act in vengeance because theft must be crushed
I am a corporate murder hobo aspie and I do not understand arguments that "the people wanted the stuff in the ground they neither put there nor could extract without stealing valuable equipment and distribution and so deserve it"
it strikes me as the same argument that the niggers should have been handed over Africa, or the Indians India, etc.
I don't really consider these creatures humans and don't view them whining about their feelings a valid concern for not wiping them out, let along letting them steal shit
40% "extreme poverty" pre-Chavez was not prosperity. It was a slave-farm. Bovines as food and beasts of burden is one thing, but humanoids are something else.
From what little I know about Venezuela 1970-1990, the country suffered Dutch Disease from it oil exports and because there was no strong secondary industries they crashed out and had a soviet backed color revolution.
Given that the natives of Venezuela are quite dumb and lazy, unless there was a strong low skill manufacturing or extraction economy - yeah, they are going to be in poverty. They were not a direct American vassal so weren't getting direct stabilization and the oil shock collapsed the only economy they had.
And it also turns out seizing infrastructure from other countries is a great way to get put on a decades long shit list from them.
@brigrammer@Humpleupagus@Oven_Operators_LU_88@Some_German_Guy Chavez worked with the oil-companies to keep things functional. When the West would try a coup, etc, he would increase the nation's cut of the oil proceeds. Under Maduro, the full "sanctions" bit went into high-gear, because the bus-driver didn't have Chavez's "aura" / popularity.
The oil companies could have kept using their in-place infrastructure, and continued making money - just as they could have in Iran under Mossadegh in Iran (who only wanted the same 50% cut the Saudis got). But, they refused to recognize that the stuff they were taking out of the ground was not put their by their grandfathers as their personal savings.
Much as we need to trash laws which allow mass-immigration, faggot-marriage, etc - put in place by traitors - nations, including our own, should absolutely nationalize the natural-wealth no one made/earned, and distribute the royalties from its sale to the folk. Of course, those getting the resources for pennies-on-the-dollar as-is, by paying off politicians, are going to call that "communism" - but screw them.
Ideally, the infrastructure would be privately developed / operated for-profit - preferably using a competitive-bidding system. I am open to suggestions how to prevent corruption in that process, so it is NOT like the corrupt USA-MIC's system.