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   LAUREN (noondlyt@hellions.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 28-Dec-2025 15:25:16 JST LAUREN

   The internet was not a mistake
   Social media was not a mistake

   Allowing Corporations to dictate and control both of these things was the mistake.

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-Dec-2025 15:26:43 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @noondlyt @messy They even eventually made people afraid of using anything other than their products. :blobfox0_0:
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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 29-Dec-2025 03:24:32 JST Rich Felker

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     @noondlyt With a small caveat that "social media" is a capitalist term for what was once called "social networking", which reframed it from a service for the benefit of its participants to one for the benefit of publishing/advertising industries. Similar dynamic to the word "content".

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Dec-2025 03:51:16 JST Tim Chambers

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     @noondlyt Amen.

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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Mar-2026 19:26:40 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     Mastodon did unimaginable harm to Fediverse and will keep doing harm for the coming decades.
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Sunday, 08-Mar-2026 19:26:43 JST tyil

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     @noondlyt@hellions.cloud Allowing normies to come in was the mistake. Normies don't have moral values, no ideals to guide them. They don't care about the implications of their actions, or what the end result is going to be. Corporations only get to dictate and control whatever most people will allow them to. The only way to fight back, is to say "no" to companies even if whatever they're fucking you over with looks very shiny. This is why you should heavily gatekeep the Fediverse. Don't let normies feel welcome, so they don't get to bring in corporate garbage as they've always done.

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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Mar-2026 19:27:19 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @Pi_rat @noondlyt @tyil
     
     Everything about Mastodon stinks of "open source" corporate sabotage; they can't compete with Fediverse because Fediverse culture is all about people having brain and socializing, whereas their culture degenerated to become the antithesis of that, it's why blocklists are a widespread cancer and why you see those retards eager to find people to bitch about and block, their minds are so rotten by capitalist social media that they can't comprehend nor wish to comprehend how a healthy social space looks like.
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     Pi_rat (pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Mar-2026 19:27:20 JST Pi_rat

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     • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙
     @sally @tyil @noondlyt Had thought recently that it is controlled opposition while reading lxo's thread with someone.
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     tyil (tyil@fedi.tyil.nl)'s status on Sunday, 08-Mar-2026 19:27:56 JST tyil

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     • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

     @sally@freesoftwareextremist.com @noondlyt@hellions.cloud Its absolutely insane. For some reason, the people who are attracted always seem to be the worst people to have around for a healthy community. Their software is also by far the most complex and resource-heavy, yet the Mastodon people keep pretending like its the only thing available, so you'll just need $200 a month to serve 10 people, don't forget to donate!!1! Massive blocklists with no responsibility (and most often without telling other operators if they're blocked or not) also seem to have originated there.
     
     I just wanted to have a nice space to have fun with likeminded autistic freedom enjoyers. This shouldn't be this hard...

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:17:59 JST Miakoda

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     @lizzard @openrisk @noondlyt IRC is still alive. It works like you desrcribed. You can just make a chat channel for a topic (register it to keep it open, or leave it unregistered to let it vanish when the last user leaves), and bail any time you want. It's inherintly decentralized, as each server (with some weird exceptions) are their own collection of chat channels.

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     lizzzzard (lizzard@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:01 JST lizzzzard

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     @openrisk @noondlyt I can say that, for me, the fediverse works better. But I very much assume that's because there's a pre-selection of people, as in: the people who choose to use the fediverse are already a niche.

     Following topics is a really nice feature that allows me to meet interesting people with similar interests.

     Sometimes I also wish some conversations had rooms for themselves that I could actively leave, auch as current politics. Like muting a hashtag, but that's still imperfect.

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     Open Risk (openrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:02 JST Open Risk

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     @lizzard @noondlyt the centralized platforms claim billions of party goers which redefines "oversized" :-)

     Not an expert opinion but my gut feeling is that the long history of conventions and practices around building trust in social relations are a least a source of inspiration.

     E.g chance meetings are not the typical behavior in a busy city center. They work better when smaller groups of people self-select on the basis of interests etc.

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     Open Risk (openrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:02 JST Open Risk

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     @lizzard @noondlyt in a sense its a bit of a puzzle that digital social media are such a crude, asocial and thus exhausting experience: Being social animals the protocols, language, games, taboos etc of engaging with each other are of huge importance. All of this nuance has somehow gone out the window, largely because of enshittification, but for anybody who's been online long enough, it is also intrinsic to the simplistic behaviors induced by platform design and limitations.

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     Open Risk (openrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:04 JST Open Risk

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     @noondlyt case in point: random people posting short opinions, with little context, to unknown audiences and random strangers seeing posts among the incessant firehose, again almost entirely due to chance, replying with their own opinions etc. 🤣

     You couldn't design a more flawed, socially-illiterate system if you wanted to. Maybe there is something wholesome in the missing 80% of required work that would make social media viable, but remains to be seen (assuming the corporaticos allow it)

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     lizzzzard (lizzard@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:04 JST lizzzzard

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     @openrisk @noondlyt the "firehose" is actually more like an oversized kitchen party, where there's lots of chance meetings, and many conversations going on. Wouldn't like it every day, but it's good for meeting interesting people. Then you take a few people and move them to your mutuals and follow them more closely, some more than others.

     There's quite a bit of chance in how I met friends over my life.

     What features or restrictions would make for a more social network, you think?

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     Open Risk (openrisk@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 02:18:05 JST Open Risk

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     @noondlyt imho social media was flawed long before corporatisation and that played a key role in the rapid enshittification. Its a case where faking it in 80/20 style is just not cutting it. We need to think more about which features of "real" social interactions help maintain some sort of sanity.

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Apr-2026 04:16:27 JST Miakoda

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     @noondlyt THANK YOU! Good god. I've gotten so sick of people bashing on the internet itself. The vast majority of my knowledge and skills were learned via the internet. Not just pages of information, but IRC chats and forums full of actual humans sharing knowledge. The internet has been one of the best technological marvals in my life time, and corpos running the show has been one of the worst developments.