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   ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:06:02 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

   reason to lose ten minutes to stupid computer shit: libreoffice appears to default to UTF-7 (sic) when importing CSV files

   why in the ever living fuck would you want to use UTF-7. ever. at any point in your life

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:06:02 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     stop building software that makes me want to slit my wrists

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:06:54 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Ra (Freyja) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩

     @freya no idea how it happened but it translates - to +AC0

     in a fucking CSV file

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     Ra (Freyja) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:06:56 JST Ra (Freyja) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩

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     @whitequark wait what the actual fuck

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:09:28 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i think it may have been some sort of transient misconfiguration, but my overarching point is that _you should not have UTF-7 in your list of encodings_.

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:11:40 JST Glyph

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     @whitequark brb setting my locale to UCS-3

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:15:41 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Andrew Zonenberg

     @azonenberg it is mostly not a thing

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     Andrew Zonenberg (azonenberg@ioc.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:15:42 JST Andrew Zonenberg

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     @whitequark I did not even know UTF-7 was a thing

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:19:50 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Ignas Kiela

     @ignaloidas *maybe* I accidentally rolled scroll wheel while mouse-moving over the combo box?

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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 14:19:51 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @whitequark@mastodon.social Seems like I managed to never hit this one even though I use libreoffice for this not that rarely, for me it seems to default to UTF-8?
     
     New circle of hell is required for this though

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Dec-2025 19:11:24 JST abrasive

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     @whitequark this bit me the other week! it saved files with bloody UTF-7 escapes in them and broke everything downstream because of course.
     libreoffice is like an exercise in reproducing office 97's functionality but combining it with the user hostility of all of MS' products since

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Dec-2025 10:55:53 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • abrasive

     @abrasive ouch

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Sunday, 28-Dec-2025 10:55:54 JST abrasive

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     I'm not sure how to square those feelings with the endless papercuts. eg the time I did a lot of work in a new file while the filepicker's last-used cwd was /some/*directory_with_asterisk/name - and then the save dialog wouldn't open because it interpreted the dirname as a filename filter and said hey you can't have a glob in the middle of a filter!

     having to attach a debugger and read a bunch of code just to save a bunch of work is a pretty deep papercut

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Sunday, 28-Dec-2025 10:55:55 JST abrasive

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     @whitequark on reflection I think this wording is a bit harsh. I'm genuinely grateful that libreoffice exists and the people who work on it have a pretty thankless lot I think