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   mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:15 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
   To to the people who though that flatpak/snap/appimage we necessary.
   Fuck you, fuck you for windshitifying gnu/linux desktop for users WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT GNU/LINUX.
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     @7666 @verita84 @hj @jeremiah @mangeurdenuage Better get a Volvo 240. :blobfoxgoogly: (Photo source)

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     7666 (7666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:07 JST 7666

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     @hj @verita84 @jeremiah @mangeurdenuage it's funny because audis are overcomplicated vehicles with too many computers, very expensive parts, and impossible repairability
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     @hj @verita84 @jeremiah debatable :runit:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:09 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mangeurdenuage @verita84 @jeremiah systemd at least easier to read and write than bash scripts that tend to be very cryptic by nature and bash syntax
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:10 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mangeurdenuage @verita84 @jeremiah IMO init is the IE that needed replacement.
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     @jeremiah @verita84
     > SystemD replaced init because it was easier to manage,
     SystemD replaced others because it used the same methods that IE/chrome used to be "popular", it was the default.
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:12 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @jeremiah @verita84
     >who contribute nothing to that process bitch as if religiously offende
     Aka I'll make the logo you do the code.
     
     >This is why Poetteringware like systemD is still in use 15 years later.
     Systemd didn't solve much tho.
     It was supposed to only be an init and exponentially grew and absorbed/added more and more functions, that are undeniably practical, but created a spaghetti code of a million lines that can't be maintained sanely.
     Which either reflects people paid by redhat without proper management or corporate meddling adding more and more.
     But I agree it's a practical centralized tool, which scripts did previously.
     
     > It is literally a response to the sheer number of configurations and their variability.
     That's not the only reason but I agree. But it's not a solution either. There's no real proper automated solution for all distros as not everyone will agree on anything. Thus why the attack surface/fake security it brings with it is as it is.
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:12 JST Jezza™

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     > SystemD is not "just an init." That's precisely why it replaced init. It was built incrementally.
     
     If people built a superior solution, it would replace SystemD just as SystemD replaced init because it was easier to manage, parallelized startup for greater speed, and managed dependencies more sanely.
     
     Seriously, if it's this big a problem, where's the replacement? Who's working on that? No one? Why not you?
     
     When you refer to spaghetti code, are you referring to your own audit/experience, or is this a popular trope that you're sharing?
     
     > Aka I'll make the logo you do the code.
     That would be a contribution. Non-coders contribute a lot -- an comprehensive icon pack is no trivial exercise even if not a line of code is written.
     
     > ... automated solution
     So vendor compiled apps. Vendors like OpenSUSE and Redhack, for example, that everyone complain are compromised by corporate interests. It's a problem, but proffered as a solution by the same people who complain about it?
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:13 JST Jezza™

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     @verita84 @mangeurdenuage there's a pattern here: people want things, someone comes up with a solution, and a whole bunch of people who contribute nothing to that process bitch as if religiously offended.
     
     In theory, if you don't like the solution to a problem, you are free and able contribute a better one... but this does not happen. This is why Poetteringware like systemD is still in use 15 years later.
     
     "whole ecosystem" packaging like flatpak and so on is a response to the dizzying number of distributions and the sometimes wide differences in versions or choices of packages. It is literally a response to the sheer number of configurations and their variability. It won't go away until or unless the underlying issues are addressed.
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     Jezza™ (jeremiah@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:14 JST Jezza™

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     @mangeurdenuage so fuck most people? as a developer, why should I take responsibility for a dozen different distribution systems, or limit the distribution of my work to people who are competent to build software?
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     verita84 (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:14 JST verita84

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     And let’s not forget how docker is forced down our throats now
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     7666 (7666@comp.lain.la)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:45 JST 7666

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     @verita84 @hj @jeremiah @mangeurdenuage I don't have to put up with clockwork shit. I just drive big chevys. Look at this fuckin thing and tell me this isn't insane.
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     verita84 (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 05:21:46 JST verita84

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     @7666 @hj @jeremiah @mangeurdenuage
     
     get gud
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Nov-2025 18:02:18 JST 翠星石

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     @hj @verita84 @jeremiah @mangeurdenuage Bash scripts tend to actually work properly for handling services unlike systemd.