Accepting a git pull request from someone is not the same thing as giving someone power and attention.
It just is what it is, accepting contributions.
You are not a transphobe or nazi or any of those things because you happen to accept a pull request from someone who might be. I've not seen any proof of these accusations, it's all cancel culture-like hearsay to me as of right now.
Honestly I don't understand what you want to change? Require a full extensive background check of any potential contributor to see if they do not have any wrong opinions?
And blocking someone me just so you get the last word in a discussion is extremely rude, so now I have to make a public post about it because I can no longer reply to the thread with my thoughts.
@SuperDicq i was kind of willing to defend it until someone dug up that its passing unescaped strings through shells and its possible to delete root by looking at the titlebar wrong. never again.
@SuperDicq >I've not seen any proof of these accusations, it's all cancel culture-like hearsay to me as of right now. The drama around Hyprland and it's author comes from :drewloli: and has been extremely blown out of proportion, such is usual for Drew. You can read both sides of the argument on the respective blogs if you really want.
The absolute TL;DR is that one of the mods in the Hyprland D*scord made fun of someone annoying for using pronouns, Drew took offense, wrote a blogpost about Hyprland being "bad, transphobic, <insert random word from people with labelism>", things got resolved in the Discord, maybe even an apology was written (can't remember), a very short CoC of "be nice" was written for Hyprland, Drew took offense to CoC, random Red Hat employee who is a mod for FDO gitlab banned author of Hyprland from their Gitlab for FDO CoC violation that did not happen in any FDO spaces, Hyprland author still continues to develop Hyprland. And somewhere in there Lunduke made videos about this.
@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org Guix didn't refuse commits from Hyprland. Why would they do that if the maintainer is behaving like a normal person in the Guix issue?
Seems like they are smarter than you trying to publicly misgender people and then whining about it like a retard.
True tbh. I think Lunduke is very predictable in how he spins things and it's kinda cringe and may sometimes be of questionable accuracy (e.g. the claim that Cloudflare going down because of Rust) but he's not insane like the people he complains about, and his videos don't seem to condone violence, exclusion, hatred, etc. like the "everyone I don't like is a nazi and btw killing nazis is a good thing" folx.
He's just a normie right of center conservative guy.
drew devault/marcan (unlikely it's someone else): THIS PROJECT USES HE INSTEAD OF THEY IN THE README AND THERE'S NO COCk >:( lunduke: this is absolutely insane and drew devault/marcan should go fuck himself drew devault/marcan's friends: LUNDUKE IS A NAZI KILL HIM!!!1
Pretty sure he's explicitly said he doesn't give a fuck about other people's political beliefs and will gladly work with them on software projects.
It sounds like you're drawing an equivalence between "I'm angry because of my ideology and want to throw out people I don't like for not agreeing with it" and "I'm angry that you want to do that and want to stop you from doing it."
I hope one day you realize that this mindset of yours is not helping people but it is actually hurting people instead. Oh and that this shit is why nobody likes you and why you get banned from projects.
He does it to expose how they force their beliefs on others and/or how those beliefs make them dangerous (e.g. advocating violence).
You probably won't be able to find a Lunduke video that says things like "I'm exposing that this person is left wing which shows they are a bad person" or "this person admitted to be left wing and should therefore be excluded from software projects" or the like. Prove me wrong.
He actually chooses to complain about this instead of all the proprietary software that is actually being forced upon people in mainstream GNU/Linux distros.
@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org If you know what I think, and are capable of rational thought, I think you would agree with me.Go tip your fedora at someone else. It's not going to work on me. Hurting people by following a bigoted dogma, thinking it makes you the good guy.No, you're just an asshole and we're right about that.
> Yeah yeah I've heard the whole TERF spiel before, I already know what you think.
If you know what I think, and are capable of rational thought, I think you would agree with me. Not sure which of the two is missing.
> I hope one day you realize that this mindset of yours is not helping people but it is actually hurting people instead.
I hope you realize that this is exactly what you're doing. Hurting people by following a bigoted dogma, thinking it makes you the good guy.
> Oh and that this shit is why nobody likes you and why you get banned from projects.
No, you're just in a tiny echo chamber being fed lies by people who all agree with each other. People around me like me very much, and I don't remember being banned from any software projects.
Heck, I've started a very successful software project of my own a couple years ago and we built a massive community around it that's welcoming to everyone. There's been many contributors with political beliefs opposing mine as well; some were made moderators by me at times, and some are still there, or only stopped contributing due to time constraints but still hang around.
It's been a very healthy community, and the only people causing trouble were either severely mentally ill (mainly just one person claiming to be a past murderer and being overall insane, don't ask) or obsessed with trying to force their politics on the project (including that supposed murderer, who was also super woke of course).
It evidences that a healthy community that's genuinely inclusive is best created by staying away from CoC shit and dissuading people from getting into political arguments in the project spaces.
I guess your echo chamber and/or political prejudices make you think that I must be some kind of pathetic loner who's not liked by anyone? This is very typical of bigoted people, who can't comprehend that those not agreeing with their dogmatic world view could possibly be happy and successful and have healthy communities.
@SuperDicq@eric@taylan This shouldn't be a hot take at all, but is in current times: I don't care what your political beliefs are, I don't care if you are a man or a woman or whatever. Let's make good software. You see this pattern in most good software projects, and the anti-pattern of this in most bad software projects. Why? Because people that think the former is more important than the latter don't usually care about the software project that much. They more care about how others think of them.
@SuperDicq@eric@taylan Yeah, usually to point out of those political beliefs are killing the project. The best example of that is NixOS. Or FDO intentionally killing Xorg while pushing not yet fully ready Wayland onto more people. Or gnome hiring a shaman, which isn't political but outright dumb.
@warmbeverageenjoyer@fsebugoutzone.org@icedquinn@blob.cat I do believe the initial reason why Hyprland got popular was indeed because it was one of the first usable Wayland focused window managers, but that reason is hardly relevant in 2025 as all the others have mostly caught up.
As a hyprland user this is insanely concerning to me lmao. Sounds like I need to look into switching
One of the reasons I picked it (aside from its purty and has decent community support) is to my knowledge it has really good Wayland bideo jame support. Not as good as kde plasma but better than other WMs. Don't know if this is outdated info though
@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org@phnt@fluffytail.org@eric@pl.starnix.network Oh ok so people openly calling for violence and exclusion are ok but those who call for tolerance are bad because they secretly mean the opposite according to you.No, read the thread. This thread was about both Lunduke and Drew Devault. gay men must consider females as potential partners, otherwise they're "transphobic"Nobody is saying that, you made that up. curtail people's freedom of expressionThat's what YOU are doing by insisting that trans people identify as their birth gender you shithead.
> Just because Lunduke is smart enough to not say the quiet part out loud doesn't mean he's not abusing the same kind of feelings to get attention from his audience to spread hatred.
Oh ok so people openly calling for violence and exclusion are ok but those who call for tolerance are bad because they secretly mean the opposite according to you.
This is an extremely worrying way of thinking. You've convinced yourself that some people are evil to such an extent that nothing they say or do could change your mind, except I assume if they completely capitulate and submit to your ideology.
> The GNOME pride flags thing
Funny you mention that. I first saw it not from the Lunduke video but from a young gay man complaining about it. He's very lovely, recently came out to his parents if I remember correctly, and is rightfully very worried with acceptance.
One of his major gripes with society is that woke people are making everything very difficult for many gay people right now. In part with direct homophobia (e.g. gay men must consider females as potential partners, otherwise they're "transphobic") and in part by constantly bringing negative attention to the entirety of "LGBT" by trying to curtail people's freedom of expression, trying to force them to accept notions such as "trans kids" and so on.
For many a vulnerable young gay person, the only way to getting into an "accepting" community now is to join the woke mob and carefully navigate around their homophobia (so as to avoid transphobia accusations). Otherwise, they either have to go their own path completely alone and isolated, join "gender critical" gay groups that are constantly attacked by woke people, or just stay in the closet forever I guess. It's really shitty and a lot of them are of the opinion that people like you have made things much more difficult for them compared to the early 2000s.
@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org The fact that you can't have your political opinions associated without harming your project says a lot about your political opinions.
Because you realize that normal and sensible political opinions are not controversial, right?
> Go tip your fedora at someone else. It's not going to work on me.
It was worth a try. :blobcat-nose:
> No, you're just an asshole and we're right about that.
Whatever helps you sleep at night friendo.
> What software project do you work on?
I don't want to create an association between that project, and political arguments I have on fedi. Especially since I'm the founder and admin, I have the biggest responsibility of all to keep my personal political beliefs out of it. Let's just say it's a very well liked wiki for a very well liked and popular RPG video game that came out two years ago.
You have to recognize that being born female leads to a person having certain experiences in life due to sexism/misogyny, that people born male don't have, so you can accurately describe how sexism works, and do something against it. Otherwise you're just turning Women's Rights into All Lives Matter aka "let's not speak of issues uniquely affecting a specific group of people and pretend like there's no specific injustices happening against them." You also have to respect that some women don't want male people in certain spaces, especially changing rooms and whatnot, where they may be in a state of undress; or sports, in which having a male body brings significant physical advantage.
You have to recognize that sexual orientation is primarily based on people's actual anatomic sex, and leave homosexual people alone, instead of trying to pressure them into accepting opposite-sex partners by saying "trans women are women and being a lesbian means loving women, so you can't exclude trans women from that."
You have to allow people to describe and talk about reality the way it appears to them, like calling a man a man and speaking of him as "he," insofar it doesn't turn into harassment. Best analogy: Religion. Going up to the face of your devote Christian coworker and saying "lol imagine believing in sky fairies" all the time? That's harassment. Saying "oh, I'm an atheist, I don't believe in a god" in a normal way, when they expect you to verbally validate the existence of their god somehow? That's just your freedom of belief and expression. You have to apply the same to the "trans women are women" belief; you can't force others to validate it.
You have to acknowledge that someone having extremely negative feelings towards their own body isn't something natural to simply validate, and offer endless medical procedures trying to "fix" it. (Procedures of which some have extreme side effects, risk factors, and potential for regret due to being irreversible.) Empathetic therapy based on self-acceptance might alleviate some of the symptoms and make less drastic interventions (like only going on HRT instead of all the way to SRS) or even no medical intervention (just dress the way you want, without HRT) may end up being sufficient for the person given sufficient mental health support. A medical intervention on a physically healthy body, to alleviate a psychological issue, is a highly questionable approach, and should always be the last resort in case nothing else works.