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   Abhiseck Paira (redstarfish@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 14:54:59 JST Abhiseck Paira
   Introducing the Debian Libre Live Images
   
   https://blog.josefsson.org/2025/11/13/introducing-the-debian-libre-live-images/
   
   Personally, I've moved to Trisquel. I'll also install it on friends machines.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 21:49:20 JST 翠星石

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     @redstarfish @sally Almost all hardware works with GNU Linux-libre - it only tends to be poor quality Wi-Fi cards that don't work at all.
     
     The deblob scripts mostly remove proprietary software loading machinery, although it also cleans the proprietary software from Linux.
     
     GNU Linux-libre will load any software that the user asks it to via "CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE" - which allows many proprietary drivers to be used - although some drivers like AMDGPU are designed to not work unless the proprietary software can be loaded at runtime - which requires also rolling back to the uncleaned sources.
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     Abhiseck Paira (redstarfish@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 21:49:22 JST Abhiseck Paira

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     @sally No. The kernel distributed by Trisquel is not exactly Linux-libre distributed by FSFLA, even though it cleans non-free software from Linux (using linux libre scripts), it still retains kernel's ability to load blobs if user provides them.
     
     So, I can ask friends what they want after explaining the situation, and then do whatever they choose.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 21:49:23 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     Your friends have hardware that works on Linux-libre?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2025 21:51:15 JST 翠星石

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     @redstarfish @sally What Debian distributes is a version of Linux with some of the proprietary software cleaned out, but all the proprietary software loading machinery is left in place.