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   ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:29:24 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

   hey chat!! guess what oscilloscope i'm upgrading to!!! i'll probably only buy a new scope once per decade, and my rigol has served me extremely well.

   what do you think it will be?!

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:31:21 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     that's right. it's a New Rigol

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     arylia lunacharskaya (aryl@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:34:03 JST arylia lunacharskaya

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     @whitequark the Scope for Gamers

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:35:13 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     in fact... i liked my old Rigol so much, i've preordered the limited edition MHO98 with the 24K gold nameplate! proud owner of unit #144/#1998

     (jk! while i do genuinely like my Rigol immensely, my decision here was motsly driven by the fact that the MHO98 is actually a better deal, dollar for dollar, than any of the equivalent normal consumer models i was looking at)

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:38:25 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Louis Vallat
     • arylia lunacharskaya

     @louis @aryl we doin CMYK here

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     Louis Vallat (louis@social.louis-vallat.dev)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:38:28 JST Louis Vallat

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     • arylia lunacharskaya

     @aryl@mastodon.social where's the RGB though? :thonk:
     @whitequark@mastodon.social

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     arylia lunacharskaya (aryl@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:39:04 JST arylia lunacharskaya

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     @whitequark https://mastodon.social/@aryl/115369297667550309 also i pushed you into an impulse purchase. as your vizier

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:42:27 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i have to give it to them, while my DS1074Z is not the fastest scope, and not the cheapest, nor with the most stable SCPI, neither with the highest number of features (also, not the most unhackable, hihi), it has worked for me essentially flawlessly for about 13 years now, which is more than any other electronic device i own, and with more utility to it too

     this is basically how rigol made me go "yeah i'll just assume they can probably do that again". lost sales technique

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:43:36 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     "if you make your oscilloscopes good enough for the children to love, they'll eventually grow into adults with significantly more money to blow on instruments" is an extremely sound strategy but you also do have to do the minor intermediate step of making your UI not rage-inducing, which many forgot about

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:46:38 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Julien Goodwin

     @LapTop006 yeah basically. they do make genuinely quite good equipment, both for the money and in absolute terms

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     Julien Goodwin (laptop006@aus.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:46:39 JST Julien Goodwin

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     @whitequark I genuinely think unless your budget for scope, probes and accessories is above $10k you can't beat the Rigol. I love my Keysight 6k, but it does very little for me in practice that a Rigol wouldn't

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:50:28 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Julien Goodwin

     @LapTop006 it has never occurred to me to look up a tutorial for a scope but i might have a higher than average desire to spend a day looking through every menu and then memorizing it all

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     Julien Goodwin (laptop006@aus.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:50:29 JST Julien Goodwin

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     @whitequark plus they're so common that there's a really good chance someone has posted a tutorial showing how to do what you want on that model

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:53:23 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     holy shit they put a (rigol-branded) thumbdrive into the "a thumbdrive comes into this port to weep in loneliness" USB port on the front panel. i don't have to sacrifice one of my own

     i feel like this alone has given the product more of a "premium" feel than the gold trim and the 24k nameplate ever could

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 17:58:15 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     the whole "premium" bit of this is kind of funny. does it feel higher-end-er than a typical scope you could buy? yeah, there's been more attention to detail than usual. but it's still a ~$2000 (idk how tariffs work) scope. it feels like a mass produced $2000 scope.

     which it damn well fucking should, i'm paying rigol for the ADCs and the UI, not the gold bling and taptic engine. so, well done

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:00:00 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i find it pretty funny as a gimmick, and like i said, the kit comes at a something like $200-$500 _discount_ (where in the range depends on whether you were counting on options to be hackable), so i think it is basically a marketing gimmick at its core. i don't care about that though, i like that i finally have a scope with an integrated LA beause i really missed it

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     I love this, so I (jpm@aus.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:01:31 JST I love this, so I

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     @whitequark ooooh that’s fancy

     *checks* ooh that’s not cheap but a LOT of scope for the money

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:01:31 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • I love this, so I

     @jpm I figured that if I let this depreciate over 15 years like it happened with my previous rigol (one of my THE most used and depended upon instruments), it costs basically nothing

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:02:17 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • I love this, so I

     @jpm 10-15 years from now either I am rich enough to order a 10 GHz Tek by lighting a $100 bill on fire, or I work for an employer who provides one as standard, or I'm dead or something

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:03:41 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     also it powers off USB-C so i can finally stop having that one IEC C13 cable awkwarly hanging off the desk trying to throw everything that is lighter weight than that plug (i.e. everything expensive) off it whenever it undergoes a tectonic shift at random

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:05:28 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     ok time to power it on and immediately install balatro

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:39:28 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • kc :blobcatheart:

     @kc I'm sure it improves the parameters at least a bit, but that's probably not why they plated it

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     kc :blobcatheart: (kc@mastodon.dragoncave.dev)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 18:39:29 JST kc :blobcatheart:

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     @whitequark do the gold plated probe ports make a difference or are they just for show?

     (disclaimer: my experience with oscilloscopes is very limited)

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:09:09 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     okay i had some time to play with the UI.

     (identifying wood voice) it's a Rigol. it has basically the same general command set and UI language as my 15 year old Rigol. basically the same level of jank, now inexplicably on a completely unrelated OS & hardware platform, too!

     it does the thing. that thing my old scope did, it does it. it doesn't do much else.

     as someone who basically upgraded because i needed My Rigol But Faster this is kind of perfect

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:10:51 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i feel like the UI could stand to be a little less jank, and the real test of the capabilities will be finding out whether or not it can be usably remoted (I'm not holding my breath, though I do expect it to be better than 15 years ago), but other than that I don't know what I expected (I had no idea what to expect really). it's a Rigol, _duh_. i have no reasons to complain

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:11:37 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     one question though

     what is the point of a "low power mode" that doesn't make the fans spin at any less "jetliner at takeoff" level of ergonomics than they are at "full power mode"

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:17:31 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @abrasive oh good point

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:17:32 JST abrasive

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     @whitequark running it off a battery?

     (why would you not dip the fans tho goodness me)

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:21:42 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • abrasive

     @jpm @abrasive Wait which one of us

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     I love this, so I (jpm@aus.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:21:43 JST I love this, so I

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     • abrasive

     @whitequark @abrasive I wonder if it also negotiates a lower USB-C power consumption in that mode? If only you had a tool that could snoop USB-C PD messages which you’ve designed yourself and sold many of?

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     James Just James (purpleidea@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:22:13 JST James Just James

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     @whitequark Funny timing, I just watched this review of that exact same scope, and TBQH, it did not impress me.

     Video may be useful as a heads up for some bugs and other workarounds.

     Glad to hear it's working well for you!

     https://youtu.be/EFEuWGFDL9U?t=86

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:25:50 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     my preliminary impression is that MHO98 is, rather being a particularly fancy or particularly featureful or particularly (X) scope, is more than anything a love letter to all the people who like them enough to preorder a scope with gold trim. it is precisely what you would expect from a mass market Rigol, at a price point that is basically unbeatable, and with a bit more attention put into it

     you get _so_ much scope per $ it's unbelievable

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:25:55 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • James Just James

     @purpleidea which bits of it?

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     dram🎀 (dramforever@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:28:23 JST dram🎀

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     @whitequark they gave you a tiny usb drive aaa that's so cute...

     not to mention it's *tiny* so you don't have to worry about swiping something and snapping off the connector

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     James Just James (purpleidea@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:29:14 JST James Just James

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     @whitequark Don't remember the specific time codes, but he mentions a bunch of issues, including one where the cursors disappear and so on...

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:29:23 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • dram🎀

     @dramforever yes! I have one almost exactly like it stuck in my old Rigol, but this one is branded (convenient!) and also presumably works with the scope at a rate faster than the infuriating 5 KB/s the other one does

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:29:59 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • James Just James

     @purpleidea oh that's whatever. I do open source, "this thing has bugs at release" is a day ending in -y

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:31:44 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     I've been informed it has a bunch of UI bugs at release day, which I do not care about because I work in open source and "bugs at release" is a day ending in -y. if they fucked up the AFE then yeah sure that would be a problem

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:37:13 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Lynne

     @lynne I had a die-hard fan of that type of controls tell me this 13 years ago when I first got my DS1074Z and I don't think there's been a single day in my entire career when I wanted demultiplexed controls

     (on the contrary, I had benefited a _lot_ from the more compact profile from multiplexing; I had specifically picked the scope on the basis of this and it paid off very well)

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     Lynne (lynne@mk.pars.ee)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:37:15 JST Lynne

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     @whitequark@mastodon.social I still think I'd rather get an old Agilent/Keysight. I couldn't tolerate a larger low-res screen in favor of cutting independent controls for each channel.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:51:09 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @lynne I do find the screen genuinely weird, yeah

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     Lynne (lynne@mk.pars.ee)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:51:11 JST Lynne

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     @whitequark@mastodon.social 1Ghz for that price would make me think twice about multiplexed controls though.
     But not with that screen. I suppose Rigol must have been paid to use that screen, since you could find better screens for free.

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:51:27 JST abrasive

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     @whitequark @jpm I have never sold anything that useful

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 19:51:27 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • abrasive

     @abrasive @jpm I've definitely not designed a tool for USB-C PD message snooping

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 20:06:36 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Lynne

     @swetland @lynne it does and lemme check that once i get downstairs! it should, it's just an android app

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     Brian Swetland (swetland@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 20:06:37 JST Brian Swetland

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     • Lynne

     @whitequark @lynne I was really wary of the demux'd controls when I ordered a cheap Siglent scope after my much fancier Keysight scope self-destructed some years back, but I got used to them pretty quickly. One button tap to select the channel is really not all that much of an inconvenience, I found.

     Regarding the display, it's got HDMI out, right? Does it run at higher resolution on an external display?

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 21:03:31 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Lynne

     @swetland @lynne genuinely can't fuckin tell how you use HDMI out

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2025 22:57:11 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @swetland @lynne ok i figured it out

     nah it mirrors the internal screen. it bigger

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     zopieux (zopieux@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Nov-2025 05:48:42 JST zopieux

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     @whitequark
     This guy[1] was not too impressed by that new model. Do you share the criticisms?

     [1] https://youtu.be/EFEuWGFDL9U

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Nov-2025 21:48:04 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @zopieux can't be bothered to watch