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    HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 05:51:54 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
    • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

    @forthy42

    #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal

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    I can follow you train of thought, Bernd.

    The way you portray the opium trade and the British East India Company's (EIC) example, I do see the moral hazard. We can both agree that it was morally wrong.

    I am no specialist in medieval English law, but the EIC received a royal charter and thus was a legal company in Britain. Owning shares in that joint-stock company was legal, so there cannot be a liability...

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      • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

      @forthy42

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal

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      ...of the shareholders beyond their shares.

      According to the brief history I glanced at, policy was set by the Board of Directors. There probably were influential shareholders who really had a say in company policy. That would to be looked at individually. But overall, shareholders "only" have a limited legal but do have a moral liability.

      BTW, the EIC was dissolved in 1974 due to the #Indian Rebellion of 1857, resulting...

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      • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

      @forthy42

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal

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      in direct British colonial rule in #India, I did not see any connections to the opion trade in this respect.

      Either way, I still think board members and other leading executives of a company, as well as the corporation itself
      can be held to account.

      As any debtor of a Chapter 11 company will tell you, if a company goes completely bust, the debtors get almost...

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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      • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal

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      @forthy42

      nothing. Having a still viable company working in the interest of (at least) the nation, like in #Norway, is way better than bankrupcy to make #BigOil pay for #Terracide.

      Also, I would mind greatly if the Western world order did collapse. It isn't really western, per se. It is the international rules-based system that the survivors of the (regionally) apocalyptic WWII set to overcome the "right of the strongest"...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 06:06:41 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
      • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

      @forthy42

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal
      #United Nations

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      ...too weak.

      I can give an example of where the #UN should be going, and that is the recent inspiring speech at the #UnitedNations by the Prime Minister of Barbados:

      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/115408728308331168

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      @forthy42

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal
      #UnitedNations

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      ...Man y countries have been seeing what this entails since WWII, if a superpower is involved, most recently #Ukraine, but also #Palestine (and, yes, I mean country). But we can easily think of Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

      The international order has lost its superpower and others are ignoring the rules-based system.

      But this does not mean that it was the wrong way to go. Only, that it is incomplete and...

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      • Bernd Paysan R.I.P Natenom 🕯️

      @forthy42

      #Shareholder liability #Fedilaw #Legal
      #UnitedNations

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      ...that it lacks support, in particular of the former, current, and future superpowers.

      I can give an example of where the #UN should be heading, IMHO, and that is the recent inspiring speech of the prime minister of #Barbados:

      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/115408728308331168

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        #GeoPol #UN (1/n) *"They plunder, they butcher, they ravish, they make it desert and call it peace. They make it desert and they call it peace."* #Tacitus We need more astute and globally aware, inspired leaders like "her excellency, #MiaAmoreMley, Prime Minister, Prime Minister and Minister for National Security and the Public Service and Minister for Finance, Economic Affairs and Investment of #Barbados." Her address to the #UN assembly is simply brilliant: https://youtu.be/7cVnfUhEfLI

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