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   asie (asie@mk.asie.pl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 00:59:33 JST asie

   https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/removing-obfuscation-in-java-edition
   
   Congratulations to who I assume are Mojang's programmers for finally pushing this through. When I started work on alternate community-sourced Minecraft mappings in 2016, I did not imagine that it would start a domino chain culminating in Mojang's legal team finally conceding that the charade of binary obfuscation for one of the most reverse engineered games in the world is no longer beneficial to maintain.
   
   Now let's hope Fabric finally lets Yarn go independent, as they should have done long ago.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 00:59:32 JST SuperDicq

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     @asie@mk.asie.pl Minecraft becoming free software will probably be catastrophic for my Luanti server tho.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:34:31 JST SuperDicq

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     @asie@mk.asie.pl Until then play Luanti tho.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:34:32 JST SuperDicq

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     @asie@mk.asie.pl Yes, I know, but if they keep going in that direction it might become free software (let me dream, alright?)

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     asie (asie@mk.asie.pl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:34:33 JST asie

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo it's still proprietary, it's just that we've gone from "manually reverse-engineering function/class names" (2011) through "having access to official function/class names, but having to apply them to the JAR ourselves" (2019) to "just having the JAR use official function/class names by itself" (2025). in terms of licensing, nothing changes

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:44:00 JST SuperDicq

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     @asie@mk.asie.pl Isn't Minecraft literally the most popular video game of all time? That will take a while...

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     asie (asie@mk.asie.pl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:44:02 JST asie

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo not until the game is dead

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:53:18 JST SuperDicq

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     @asie@mk.asie.pl @VD15@pl.valkyrie.world No wonder Notch has always been an asshole.

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     asie (asie@mk.asie.pl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:53:20 JST asie

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     @VD15@pl.valkyrie.world @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo
     
     no, the decision to obfuscate was originally made by Notch all the way back in 2009, and upheld by Mojang's own lawyers long before they were purchased by Microsoft. as I understand it, the call here came from inside the house

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     :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7: (vd15@pl.valkyrie.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:53:21 JST :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7:

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     • SuperDicq

     @asie @SuperDicq You're right, I forgot they're owned by m*crosoft for a sec

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     asie (asie@mk.asie.pl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:53:22 JST asie

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     @VD15@pl.valkyrie.world @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo lawyer thinking was at play in this decision

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     :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7: (vd15@pl.valkyrie.world)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 04:53:23 JST :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7:

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     • SuperDicq

     @asie @SuperDicq Haven't mojang already been releasing deobfuscation mappings for like five years though? I'm surprised they bothered to keep the obfuscation enabled for this long considering they made it trivial to remove

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 19:08:34 JST 翠星石

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq @asie minecraft will never become free software.
     >Just a quick reminder: these changes don’t affect our Minecraft End User License Agreement and Minecraft Usage Guideline
     
     The comments aren't included, which renders software proprietary (even if it's under a free license), as then it is no longer the preferred version for making modifications.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 19:10:00 JST 翠星石

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     @asie @SuperDicq microsoft has never and will never release nontrivial free software.
     
     Even after minecraft dies, it will remain proprietary.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Oct-2025 19:15:41 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @VD15 @asie Being a proprietary software developer has a result of 100% chance of being an asshole - I haven't come across a single proprietary software developer who isn't an asshole (even if the developer sometimes, or maybe even primarily works on free software).