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   mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:56:48 JST mcc

   Don't use Fedora Linux https://mastodon.social/@gamingonlinux/115422841053394776

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 01:56:48 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @mcc the specific policy doesn't seem bad to me; the text is close to what i've considered (but ultimately rejected) for Amaranth

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:46:13 JST Miakoda

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     @mcc *laughing at all the people who kept insisting I use Fedora and scoffed at me for saying I didn't like Fedora*

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:47:36 JST Miakoda

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     • Manjaro Linux

     @mcc Hey, @manjarolinux - please make note of this so I don't have to start over on all these laptops.

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:49:19 JST Miakoda

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     • Canageek

     @Canageek @mcc Ubuntu and it's flavors haven't been on my machines in a long long time. They've kinda become crap

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     Canageek (canageek@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:49:20 JST Canageek

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     @mcc Yeah, I need to switch away, do you have any recommendations for a KDE focus distribution without similar policies? Right now I'm thinking kubuntu...

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:51:55 JST Miakoda

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     • Canageek

     @Canageek @mcc Huh. I did not know they split. I'll have to spin it up in a VM some time.

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     Canageek (canageek@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:51:56 JST Canageek

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     • Miakoda

     @hellomiakoda @mcc Yeah what? I haven't figured out if that affects kubuntu, since it apparently left canonical and went its own way a very long time ago, so Ubuntu has its own internal KDE distribution now which I'm staying far away from

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:56:16 JST Miakoda

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     • Canageek

     @Canageek @mcc 🤣️ I had forgotten about the ads! 🤣️

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     Canageek (canageek@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:56:17 JST Canageek

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     • Miakoda

     @hellomiakoda @mcc according to Wikipedia canonical stomped sponsoring it in 2012 and Blue Systems, a German IT company picked it up, apparently it's since left them but no one's updated the Wikipedia page

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     Canageek (canageek@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 02:56:17 JST Canageek

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     • Miakoda

     @hellomiakoda @mcc (I don't know if it's gone all in on snaps and command line ads and all of that weird stuff, The last time I used it was in like 2006)

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:35 JST Miakoda

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     • Canageek

     @mcc @Canageek I LOATHE snaps.
     Flatpaks... I have my gripes... I'm lukewarm on them.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:06:36 JST mcc

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     • Canageek
     • Miakoda

     @Canageek @hellomiakoda (For the record, flatpaks are extremely good and you want them. Snaps are what you want to avoid because Canonical's system is kinda closed and so the Snaps are usually maintained unofficially, may contain additional bugs, and if you try to talk to a project's support network they'll be like "we can't help you, you're using the Snap." Flatpaks/Snaps are especially great in an era where Ubuntu base packages are kinda old and Debian base packages probably older.)

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     Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:11:17 JST Miakoda

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     • Canageek

     @mcc @Canageek
     What hate most about snaps is they are so sandboxed, it causes issues getting data in to the software. Or out of, for that matter.
     I hate it. I'm not willing to break my machine for the sake of secure. Cause by that logic, if I hit my machine with a hanmer till it doesn't power, it'll be impossible to have my data stolen.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:11:18 JST mcc

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     • Canageek
     • Miakoda

     @Canageek @hellomiakoda One of the things that infuriated me about Ubuntu (no K) is that because the default install of Firefox is a snap, if you click "attach image" or something on a site like mastodon, the Firefox open dialog box doesn't have image previews.

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     Canageek (canageek@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 03:11:19 JST Canageek

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     • Miakoda

     @mcc @hellomiakoda This matches the impression I've gotten in general, but I don't want one of those weird distributions that has a fixed base that you can't change. and all of your packages are installed as flatpacks, because I've had a few headaches with Steam and flatpak sandboxing permissions already, so I want it at least as a distribution package

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 04:31:43 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Oblomov
     • David Gerard
     • Josh Simmons

     @oblomov @mcc @dotstdy @davidgerard sigh

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     Oblomov (oblomov@sociale.network)'s status on Friday, 24-Oct-2025 04:31:45 JST Oblomov

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     • David Gerard
     • ✧✦Catherine✦✧
     • Josh Simmons

     @whitequark @mcc the policy has been set in place because RedHat employees (the corporate hand up Fedora's) now have a KPI based on their AI usage

     https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2025/10/03/mi2-glib/

     h/t @dotstdy and @davidgerard

     https://mastodon.social/@dotstdy/115343603205954830
     https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/115343584016809960