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    Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 (osma@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 02:43:30 JST Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
    • Paul Cantrell
    • Jesse Morris

    Helmets aren't infrastructure
    @aubilenon @inthehands

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 02:43:29 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Jesse Morris

      @osma @aubilenon

      Systems that make helmets available and accessible to those who need them •are• infrastructure though

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 03:23:59 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Deb Chachra
      • Jesse Morris

      @osma @aubilenon

      You should read @debcha’s How Infrastructure Works.

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      Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 (osma@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 03:24:00 JST Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
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      • Jesse Morris

      That's stretching the definition of the word quite a bit further than I'd be comfortable stretching it.
      @inthehands @aubilenon

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 23:50:11 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Deb Chachra
      • Jesse Morris

      @debcha @aubilenon @osma
      Indeed, all that — plus the fundamental outlook the book fosters to view infrastructure not just as physical objects (“infrastructure is wires, pipes, bridges”) but as •systems• (“the electrical grid is wires, people, laws, agencies…”). Thus my assertion that while helmets are not infrastructure, a system that collectively makes helmets readily available to people in contexts where they need them •could be• infrastructure.

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      Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 (osma@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 23:50:13 JST Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
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      • Paul Cantrell
      • Deb Chachra
      • Jesse Morris

      It's not available in my local books infrastructure (the library) so could you please reference how it relates to sharing helmets (rather than safe road space) as infrastructure development? Thanks!
      @inthehands @aubilenon @debcha

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      Deb Chachra (debcha@saturation.social)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 23:50:13 JST Deb Chachra Deb Chachra
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      • Jesse Morris

      @aubilenon @osma @inthehands Two points I make in the book that are relevant (and I suspect why it was suggested — thanks, Paul!): i) ‘infrastructure’ is used to describe many kinds of systems, although they all do have commonalities; ii) infrastructural systems are often highly place- and culturally specific.

      The book has more detail and covers a lot more ground (that’s why it’s a book!) but I also wrote this:

      https://comment.org/care-at-scale/

      In conversation about 10 months ago permalink

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