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   Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 08:26:36 JST Blurry Moon
   they should only give you a computer science degree after you build your own physical computer out of logic gates
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 09:58:03 JST Blurry Moon

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     • fiat volvntas tva
     @scathach I'm not being ironic I mean it, if you got a correct education you almost should be able to do this
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     fiat volvntas tva (scathach@stereophonic.space)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 09:58:04 JST fiat volvntas tva

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     @sun This but unironically (most fun I've ever had in a CS class was building an 8-bit ALU in a logic gate simulator)
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     Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up) (echo@stereophonic.space)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 10:09:29 JST Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)

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     @sun I've done this. But I was in computer engineering, I don't know if computer science folks had to, even though there was a lot of overlap of classes. (It was also twenty years ago, I don't know if I'd still be able to.)

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 10:13:12 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)
     @echo when I was in in computer science we learned everything from the logic gates up to architecture and into language design. the only thing I didn't have was the actual electriconic engineering knowledge, i could have designed an 8 bit computer in a logic simulator just not with wires
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 10:29:46 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)
     @sun @echo I'm going through that right now, we are in architecture and organization
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 10:30:56 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • fiat volvntas tva
     @scathach @sun at uni we did a 4 bit alu 2 weeks ago. 8 bit would've been possible but the teacher wants the papers written by hand and for the 4 bit alu he wanted 90 table entries
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     Ross Andrews (randrews@somewhy.net)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 16:29:46 JST Ross Andrews

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     @sun This was sorta-kinda a degree requirement for mine. It was nearer the "calculator" than "computer" end of the spectrum, really just designing and wiring up an ALU.

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 18:35:33 JST Blurry Moon

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     • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)
     @Eiregoat @echo in my cs courses we effectively had to be able to describe on paper exactly how every fundamental part of a computer worked. That isn’t enough to actually build one so I was exaggerating for fun. But it’s almost true. If you’re taking engineering maybe you learn super in depth about cpus and exactly how real computers work but m a cs class you should be able to describe the logic of the registers in a z80 chip
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     :spinnenrad: Eiregoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 18:35:35 JST :spinnenrad: Eiregoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)
     I think the main difference is CS has more information theory, like calculating O numbers and such.
     
     I was much more interested in chip architecture but I couldn't find an online EE or CEng degree I could afford.
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     :spinnenrad: Eiregoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 18:43:41 JST :spinnenrad: Eiregoat :spinnenrad:

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     • Eiko Sarada (Alt/Back-Up)
     I learned all that stuff on my own on youtube, they didn't really cover it in my course. I started designing a computer from scratch but eventually realised it'd be too expensive to build from discreet parts and would always be slow as balls.
     
     Later I discovered that I'd basically designed a GPU. It was really satisfying to read about developments in chip design and immediately recognise what they were and why they existed "oh hey! I invented that too!".
     
     My proudest moment was working out a super efficient bit of architecture for averaging two numbers together.
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     matrix07012 :thotpatrol: (matrix@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Oct-2025 18:43:55 JST matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

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     @sun The closes I got was a cpu in vhdl that can run extended brainfuck

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