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   [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic: (novenary@akko.wtf)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 15:27:54 JST [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic:
   @volpeon because the only thing they're actually protective of is their ad revenue
   being able to see the content without the ads cuts into that revenue while the corpos are an existential threat to them so they have to give them a bone
   no contradiction at all
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 15:27:53 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @novenary @volpeon yeah, it's quite why I wish people would move out of youtube, it's been like that for 10 years…
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:20:58 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @faoluin @novenary @volpeon Well could be Nebula or creating it if they manage to regroup together enough.
     (And stuff like peertube/owncast/… is sadly just software)
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     Softwarewolf (faoluin@chitter.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:21:00 JST Softwarewolf

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     @lanodan @novenary @volpeon Where though

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:26:49 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @faoluin @novenary @volpeon Which given how bussiness-y to straight up corporate youtubers became in the last ~10 years, it really ought to happen.
     
     Random geek with basic-ass audio/video gear in a bedroom/attic is no longer the main stuff on youtube.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:34:48 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @novenary @faoluin @volpeon I don't think a mass one will happen but more like slightly over the years with methods like publishing on youtube a week later or putting a clip/trailer of the whole video.
     
     And a lot did left youtube but for twitch… which sometimes makes me feel like they just want to get scammed.
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     [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic: (novenary@akko.wtf)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:34:49 JST [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @lanodan @faoluin @volpeon realistically mass exodus is never going to happen though, I think youtube has proven that they can get away with pretty much anything and no one will so much as lift a finger in reaction
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:41:04 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @novenary @faoluin @volpeon Heh, they do effectively unionize but in a corporate way: Talent agencies and media corporations.
     
     It's just that quite a lot of them don't talk about it.
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     [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic: (novenary@akko.wtf)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 16:41:05 JST [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @lanodan @faoluin @volpeon I'd say the problem is creators are unable to meaningfully unionize, and individually they can't leave because it'd be too much lost revenue from the majority of viewers being unwilling to follow them elsewhere
     best we'll get is platforms like nebula and floatplane being treated as secondary, but honestly both are still kinda fishy
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 17:07:14 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @novenary @faoluin @volpeon Well I think part of the problem is they can negotiate with youtube, but on a more or less individual basis.
     
     Like a visible one is when videos of an agency get wrongfully copyright striked it's measured in hours, for indies it's in days or never.
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     [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic: (novenary@akko.wtf)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 17:07:15 JST [GRLC] (⁠^⁠.⁠_⁠.⁠^⁠)⁠ﾉ :neocat_flag_sapphic:

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     • Softwarewolf
     @lanodan @faoluin @volpeon evidently not good enough or we wouldn't be where we are right now