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if you want to play shitlib games then the FCC didn't pull jimmy kimmel from the air, similar to biden admin privately getting twitter to remove tweets
they're both free speech violations because the government shouldn't have an opinion, but shitlibs didnt' care
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@feld they didn't directlky threaten anything but they were talkinga bout regulation and dropping transmitter neutrality
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@sun what did the Biden admin threaten Twitter with tho
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@feld because they are smarter than trump and don't just use the FCC to directly threaten peopple
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@sun then why didn't that come up in the Supreme Court case? it should have been entered into evidence
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@feld anyway my position is, the government shouldn't have an opinioon, yes a direct threat is worse
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Let's be honest, ABC was happy to be given an early out from Kimmel's contract. None of these late night shows are getting renewed, the ratings are abysmal.
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@feld didn't they do it for the laptopshit too
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@sun ahhh come on. Biden admin isn't innocent of everything here but this situation is easily divided into two parts:
1. hey this is against your ToS, please enforce your ToS (everyone should feel free to send this message to Twitter or whoever)
2. hey this is dangerous misinformation and people are going to die, please stop it (ask nicely, but they don't have to do shit if they're OK with hosting that kind of content)
Requests for number 2 should probably have been denied because I'm sure internally they saw it going on. And yes maybe people were gonna die for being stupid. Trying to make a private company become your Public Service Announcement outlet is also stupid, they should have just used their own capabilities to share the information widely.
But isn't the whole "they got away with it because they're smarter about it" the same baseless shtick they've used for years to attack the Dems? I think that falls a bit too deep into conspiracy theory territory for me, the Dems definitely are not that smart or they'd have done a better job at weaponizing the government to get things done instead of dropping the ball every time they get into office
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@feld I'm not saying it'e exactly the same trump is still worse and direct threats with the FCC are very bad
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@sun both these parties are a massive disappointment and a stain on our history for different reasons
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@feld also indirect threat isn't a conspiracy theory, antitrust against microsoft is how they got silicon valley to start using lobbyists
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@feld it never gets prosecuted and it gets done all the time by everybody
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@feld like the threat there is, he's gonna be president so don't cross him. again these things are all arguable
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@sun that was not the government, that was Biden's campaign officials. They weren't elected, didn't have power. Now I can't say for sure that there wasn't crossover between elected officials and campaign workers, but it's illegal for them to do any campaign work in official capacity or on government property etc so I would fully support prosecuting those people
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That'd be like subsidizing Blockbuster in the mid 00's. Network programming is a dead format and everybody knows it, for all the money you're blowing on a Kimmel or a Colbert you could finance a few dozen talking heads on the podcast circuit, and that's where the money is shifting.
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@Hoss @sun Inb4 the government creates taxpayer subsidies for the big 3 networks
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@feld ACLU is hollowed out by braindead idpol zoomers nwo
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@sun I don't know that's true. I haven't seen hard evidence for that, but I understand why people believe it to be happening.
It's a goddamn failure of e.g., the ACLU or whoever if there's tangible evidence of this and nobody's bringing a case because it's harming all Americans
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@feld @sun The FBI was in constant communication with twitter about what needed to be censored and who needed to be banned. The FBI doesn't need to explicitly threaten you with anything. Everyone knows what's up when they show up. The supreme Court said this was perfectly fine and no one on the left complained. Consequences. No one on the right has any sympathy. We've been pointing this all out for years. The left has destroyed every norm in this country.
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@feld @Rocket you could just say democrat, like james comey
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@Rocket @sun I don't know if you can draw a direct line between "the left" and "the FBI" when law enforcement roles isn't exactly something the Dems dominate in this country.
also I forgot that the right has been working tirelessly to preserve every norm in this country and are 100% innocent
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You're just seething that the boot ain't so nice now that it's stomping on your ugly mug. Get comfy bud, you got plenty more servings where that came from.
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@feld @nimrod basically any time the federal government from the top wants you to do something in private communication you can assume if you didn't do it there would be some kind of retaliation, just another problem with having a big dangerous federal govermment
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@nimrod @sun Nexstar (ABC) is trying to buy Tegna (Gannett) who needs FCC approval for it.
Same situation with Paramount where they settled with Trump and then magically got approval to sell Skydance.
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@sun @feld The Trump admin didnt directly threaten anything either. they just pointed out that spreading misinformation is ground for losing your FCC license and said they would look into it. Then Sinclaire and Nexstar pulled his show. We cant really know for sure if their statements are honest and they were just disgusted themselves by what he said or if it was a response to public outcry, or if it really was federal pressure.
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@feld @nimrod yes but they don't all have the power apparatus of the federal government
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@feld @nimrod like it's come out in the last several years that in many if not most cases the federal government just "asks" for information from big tech and its given
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@sun @nimrod isn't that really the case with any government officials? Cops, county/city government, etc? They all have ways to make your life hell
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