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I don't give a shit about football but this is great. It's called having balls.
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@KeepTakingTheSoma White people's feelings. Men's feelings. The party of gun's feelings. Trump's next power grab feelings.
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@Blackgendermoderate I really loathe the compulsory outbreak of sadness. We see it for just about everything now. In the UK I think the death of the Princess of Wales started it off. I was sorry she died, but the idea that I'm a bad person for not performing the rituals is just silly. Especially if there is a co-ordinated vibe around the *spontaneous* events (like the clapping for the NHS during early 2020).
For those that wish to mourn anyone for any reason, they are free to do so. To shame people into not mourning on demand is as bad as shaming people into not celebrating/affirming on demand.
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@Blackgendermoderate Am I missing something here. Is there a reason they should have a minute's silence?
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@Blackgendermoderate @KeepTakingTheSoma C'mon BGM...you're smarter than that. It's not only white people and men who feel it was wrong to kill him for his beliefs.
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @KeepTakingTheSoma Agreed. But that's not what I claimed. I said the reasons I believe this minute of public mourning is being demanded, by whom and for what reasons.
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@Blackgendermoderate @FemaleIsNotAFeeling I'm with you - it's the demanding I don't like.
And who decides which people/causes are worthy of the demand.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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@Blackgendermoderate @KeepTakingTheSoma Ok, but...I'm just now noticing:
Holt shit..."Burstitis Gunk Moose??" Where was I for the creation of this shiny gem of a profile name?? 😆
Sounds like I missed out on a fun day.
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@FemaleIsNotAFeeling @KeepTakingTheSoma Nah just late night silliness.
But about Kirk (and I've talked about him so much I feel I need to restrain myself because he doesn't deserve my energy) I can get why many are upset about the celebration of his murder or a few people who say "Who's next" but I dont think a few nuts online speaks for the majority.
And as wrong as it is that he was murdered, I don't feel sorry he's dead, only that he died in the way he did. These were his own sentiments on George Floyd, BTW. And as gross as I found them, he had a right to say them. I know some of his comments were taken out of context or incomplete but I feel they say exactly what he really thinks and believed and what his followers believe.
And when it comes to enforced rituals like pronoun ritual or mourning ritual, I see a synthesis. The far left can be terrifying but as a Black person and even as a woman, I'm more scared of the far right.
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@Blackgendermoderate @KeepTakingTheSoma A lot of people have been fired for celebrating his death...I wasn't sure how I felt about that at first, (being against cancel culture and all). Though I came to the decision that celebrating and calling for the deaths of more like him (JK Rowling, Matt Walsh, Elon Musk, Trump etc) was the potential start of a reaaally bad trend. A path I don't want to see our country go down.
Because if a guy from the left killed Charlie Kirk, then someone from the right will kill someone on the left next...and then we'll all just start killing anyone with politics we don't like from any side. I don't want to see that...the whole who's next thing. Especially as a GC with political opinions many find reprehensible and worthy of taking my life over. It could be any of us next. Charlie wasn't a politician...he was just a citizen like us. He didn't sponsor or sign any bills - he just spoke. Like millions of every day people do.
You don't have to be sad or sorry he's dead...there's admittedly some people that passed away during my lifetime that I'm not exactly mourning or missing to this day. But it is worthwhile to understand, (and it sounds like you do) that even people we don't like don't deserve to be murdered in front of their family just because we don't like what they say. It's all fun and games when it happens to someone we don't like...and a horror when it happens to us or someone we love.
I do think I saw Charlie speak on George Floyd...he was pointing out the fact that he thought George was no saint, (though a lot of people paint him as one)...he was specifically noting how Floyd served 5 years in prison for aggravated robbery and pointing a gun at the woman's abdomen he was robbing. Thankfully he wasn't celebrating his death, but yeah he was basically saying it was no great loss. And I guess that's a fair take.
I won't try to pretend I know what it's like for a black woman in this world...like a man can't know what it's like for a woman. I can try to imagine it somewhat though and I can envision that it adds another layer of shit to deal with for a black woman in many ways. Charlie had some hot takes about race that I as a white woman won't feel personally attacked by. And I can see why you might or do.
I watched his debates for probably the past year or so when he was suggested to me on YouTube. I agree with his stance on transgenderism, immigration, and his hot take on affirmative action and that a huge problem in the black community is that there are less black fathers in the home today, which contributes to a huge swath of cultural problems they are now facing. I can't call what he said about the above racist...it doesn't ring as racist to me, more so reasonable and just plain common sense. A lot of people called him Hitler and that he deserved to die for all that though and I'm just like really? Damn.
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