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   Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:39:02 JST Mr.NutterButter

   From everything I've seen the narrative I've seen consistently throughout all social media is that the the far left and most left leaning gen z are celebrating his death the more milk toast leftist is still a hate him but say it's not right to celebrate and that they'll be reevaluating their worldview center right or basically centuries have been radicalized going towards a more right-wing worldview the normal right has been shocked and extremely radicalized and slightly scared for their safety and then the far right is not surprised at all.

   I have seen a large majority of people say that he is a martyr consistently so I think he's most definitely getting to that category.

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:38:59 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @Mr_NutterButter if they're others who think our tax money should go towards palestinian seeking missiles and defending the EU while letting most people in the USA starve regardless of political affiliation that writing is something I'd like to read

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:39:00 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @vriska Personally speaking I didn't like the guy.

     Because I believed his political opinions for outdated he was very milk toast and borderline cringe with all of his takes especially his support of Israel but I can see the writing on the wall for others.

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:39:01 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @Mr_NutterButter oh noooo someone shot the astroturfing idf loving fed what a tragedy 😒

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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:39:43 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter oof

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:35 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @vriska that's true but you still can't use violence against them.

     I think most people accept the terms but don't like it that you could censor them blackmail them give them arrested completely debank them stuff like that to get rid of them in the political power game because it's all fair but for a large majority of people killing someone is too far.

     Say what you want about how stupid the average person is but killing someone crosses a line for them and they'll never find it acceptable.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:35 JST iced depresso

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     @Mr_NutterButter @vriska incorrect. they need to absolutely believe you would use violence against every single one of them at all times.
     
     otherwise they just do whatever AIPAC and others say instead of their job.
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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:36 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @Mr_NutterButter a lot of the politicians we both hate only have power because of people like kirk (on all sides of the aisle) empowering their voters for their own financial gain

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:38 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @Mr_NutterButter i can't name a single politician in the usa at a state or federal level who doesn't deserve what kirk got for his and their crimes against the american people

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:38 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @vriska I agree with the politicians which is why I don't care if they got killed it'd just be another news story. But going after influencers I think it's a step too far. No matter, because if you start doing that you can justify targeting normal civilians who just mildly agree with the politician.

     We already know people like to abuse definitions and stretch it to the farthest degree and it would most certainly would be abused.

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:40:39 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @vriska See you can say whatever you want but if people cared about that person there will be consequences to those actions.

     How long is it until a right wing person kills someone important or famous on the left now.

     How long until people justify attacking people over their normal political opinions and police or military start to side with them, and do nothing about it and abuse their power.

     How long, until they're consistent terror attacks almost every day because of something like this.

     How long until one side elect someone so radical that they start a full dictatorship and kill millions.

     It doesn't matter if you like or hate someone there is a process to gain power and when you break that process there is no guarantees for anything. We have countless examples throughout history to show what happens when important people of power get assassinated.

     Millions die a senseless death for nothing. Mother's, father's, brothers, and sisters all loose family members and people they loved due to persecution and have to uproot their lives to flee to escape.

     You have to think long-term every society and country is built off of a foundational myth or belief that regardless if it's true or not keeps everyone in line when you crack or destroy those foundations the entire building collapses in on itself until something else gets built around it which is completely different. Just because the United States was founded on democracy and the will of the people doesn't mean it can't be cracked and irreparably changed into something else.

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:42:05 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter finally. good fucking takes

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:42:05 JST iced depresso

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter "by the ballot box or the cartridge box" is like literally OG american :hehe:
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:45:32 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @vriska Yeah but that’s what gun rights are for

     You don’t actually have to kill people for malevolent authorities to fear you

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:45:36 JST iced depresso

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     @realcaseyrollins @Mr_NutterButter @vriska you actually do, but its not so much for funsies as it is game theory.
     
     every so often somebody decides to test if the threat is credible. then you actually have to give them the business. otherwise people don't take the threat serious.
     
     the possibility is whats useful--pulling the trigger an unfortunate occasional necessity.
     
     (this is isn't about kirk per se)
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:48:07 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @vriska Hmm, well maybe. But I’d never support acts of #terrorism like that. It’s a tragedy even if it could be considered necessary.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:49:35 JST iced depresso

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     @vriska @realcaseyrollins @Mr_NutterButter right. the correct form is basically
     
     - a petition/referendum saying to stop doing the thing (the ballot)
     - the sword of damocles that if such a referendum passes and is ignored they won't live to spend the foreign bribe money (the cartridge)
     
     game-theory wise its called a punishment game and they are highly important because without them one player can just choose to defect over and over with impunity (which is what they do, and why the whole hobbs leviathan meme about pacifying everyone to the monopoly of violence is their favorite thing.)
     
     its improper in a popperian sense to commit a murder over opinions though. the american "kill your government" is about ruling without consent of the governed, not about having wrong opinions (wrong opinions are specifically why the first amendment exists.)
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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:49:36 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter you kinda do actually. at the very least you need to let people know you are capable of correcting them when they decide that your tax money is better spent on foreign wars and elon musk's rocketships to nowhere

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:51:38 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @realcaseyrollins Hollow Points USA is the reason why a lot of the deciders are in power now, he and his wretched ilk influence the uneducated voter to make things even worse than they were in 2012

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter @realcaseyrollins the daily wire gang is funded by oil billionaires https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/magazine/texas-politics-billionaire-preachers.html
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     @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter this is a pretty reasonable take even if I disagree with it. sometimes it is incredibly necessary, and this was hopefully the first of many of those times

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     @vriska @realcaseyrollins @Mr_NutterButter kirk wasn't a decider. his death is meaningless (or very helpful for creating more fascism actually.)
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:51:52 JST iced depresso

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter @realcaseyrollins he was just a cog in a machine of garbage but under Popper we don't get to just kill people for wrongthink alone :cat_sad:
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:52:00 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @vriska Yep, this I agree with. In a #Democracy, use the democratic system to enact that change you literally need, and only use other methods if those courses of action fail and you have no other options at your disposal.

     Even then…it’s not really close to the assassination of #CharlieKirk, as he wasn’t a government official, nor was he killed for any particular government policy as far as I can tell. Let alone the fact that democracy is in pretty good shape in the #USA at the moment.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:53:31 JST iced depresso

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter i wish musk would spend more time trying to do cool shit than he does trying to gaslight people in to thinking he does cool shit.
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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:53:32 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @Mr_NutterButter if someone shot elon musk to death i would genuinely throw a party

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:53:34 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @vriska oh I don't disagree that something needs to be done and that the house needs to be cleaned but this wasn't the right target to start.

     Because this is just going to cause people to go more far right if they really wanted a juicy Target.

     They should have went for a banker minimal public outcry while maximizing the targets negative consequence on the masses. Someone like Bill Gates Jeff bezos or even Elon musk probably would have been a good Target.

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @vriska NGL as a right winger I’m shocked that people are giving #CharlieKirk as much credit for #Trump’s political victories as they are. I think he galvanized the right but IDK how many left wing minds he actually changed.

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     「CM VRISKA」 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:54:54 JST 「CM VRISKA」

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter the only negative consequence of elons death would be the job loss in the video game paid account boosting industry lmfao

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     Mr.NutterButter (mr_nutterbutter@gameliberty.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:56:55 JST Mr.NutterButter

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     @realcaseyrollins Charlie just appealed to the low hanging conservative use fruit more than anything which is why people are galvanizing him because they can push people further right by basically saying look they killed a normal milk toast conservative imagine what they'll do to you.

     It really is that simple.

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     @realcaseyrollins @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter well of course he didnt change left wing minds, he convinced normal conservative people that arguing over idpol was more important than building roads

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     @vriska @realcaseyrollins @Mr_NutterButter ngl i don't participate in the wilks media empire and i got very tired of the left for putting idpol above the mission [gesticulates toward the entire FOSS space with its retarded rules like "housekeeping is racist now"]
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     @vriska @icedquinn they're probably be a positive consequence because all those h1b1 visas would be canceled.

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     @Mr_NutterButter @vriska arcana got so mad when i said i'd shut down all worker visas for like ten years :blobcatlaugh:
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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Friday, 12-Sep-2025 06:58:15 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @Mr_NutterButter Yep. Well, #CharlieKirk was pretty normal and mainstream, but his primary impact wasn’t something as ephemeral and unimportant as getting #Trump elected lol, his biggest role was making right wingers in colleges feel more comfortable speaking their mind while on campus, by using #TPUSA to set up safe spaces on colleges all across the #USA.

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @realcaseyrollins the right is doing the idpol thing too

     Their own voters starve to death because its more importamt to be mad at gay people than it is to make food or housing affordable

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     @vriska @Mr_NutterButter @realcaseyrollins i have yet to encounter a foss project that ran an organized purge of non-christians.
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     @Mr_NutterButter Well…I think a lot of casual political observers on the right liked #CharlieKirk. I think even intelligent people were fans of #CharlieKirk. There are better people out there fs but if you haven’t found them yet I don’t think #CharlieKirk was a particularly bad pundit to main.

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     @realcaseyrollins other key point.

     Anyone who's not borderline retarded never really liked Charlie at all.

     If you ask anyone who talked about their conservative or right-leaning journey they always mention Ben Shapiro then Sargon of a cod and then they branched out from there to whatever they politically liked the most so these people don't even know who actually changed a large majority of voices.

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     @Mr_NutterButter Hmm…not as much anymore, I don’t think.

     What’s the point of #TPUSA chapters if you can’t speak your mind there?

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     @realcaseyrollins and even then I still think his impact was very minimal because you'll still be fucking scorched for your political beliefs if you're even remotely right wing.

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     @icedquinn @Mr_NutterButter @vriska If you told me #Gab did that when I wasn’t looking, I’d believe you.